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Dbol and a fat burner?
- Thread starter hbmike07
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It's just a over the counter brand. Phenadrine, I took it before and loved it. I have been dieting for a while and that's why I want to throw the burner to shed the rest away. Cardio is at 30-45 a day. Idk if it made me fat last time because I wasn't holding anything back. Now I want to play smart.
HarryHarry
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Dbol doesnt make you fatter than usual? The water you hold however can exagerate the fat you already have. Dbol and a fat burner woudnt be a gd idea imo. Run tbol instead and you will honestly love the gains. Either than or stick to 10mg max. 10mg is more than enough to keep you in a catabolic state.
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lartinos
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Negative on the dbol bro. Try adderllin for a good thermo.
ArmaniAK47
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I tend to think Dbol could be successfully used cutting.. It's already been said by a wise bro that Anavar would be much better.. but he cannot obtain this..
Dbol aromatizes into more than just estrogen.. it aromatizes into 17a-methyl-estradiol a potent and very active form of estrogen. I may have read somewhere that it aromatizes less than testosterone would, though.. not positive at the moment.. I may look that up when I have more time..
That estrogen would be a downfall when cutting.. but it's also part of why the gains are so good with it.. estrogen up-regulates androgen receptors.. part of why we cycle off and why we gain more (muscle) using aromatizing drugs.
"study, done in the early 80´s, a very high dose of Dbol (100mgs/day for 6 weeks) decreased plasma testosterone to about 40% of it´s normal value, plasma GH went up about a third, LH dropped to about 80% of it´s original value, and FSH went down about a third also (these are all approximate numbers, for the sake of brevity, but you get the idea). Body fat did not go up significantly and Fat Free Mass went up anywhere between 2-7kgs (3.3kgs average gain)" -
I suggest using 10mgs a day for around 6 weeks to help hold onto the muscle you have, and improve recovery time, nutrient absorbtion and possibly even help in fat loss.
Or- you could alternately use a dose of 30mgs with light aromatase inhibitor usage.. this would turn Dbols effects more into that of Tbol or EQ.. while retaining some of Dbols novel qualities of it's own. Nothing will match anavar here, but when life gives you Dbol.. you cut with it.
Can you get injectable test? we'd really be cooking then. ^ ^
Dbol aromatizes into more than just estrogen.. it aromatizes into 17a-methyl-estradiol a potent and very active form of estrogen. I may have read somewhere that it aromatizes less than testosterone would, though.. not positive at the moment.. I may look that up when I have more time..
That estrogen would be a downfall when cutting.. but it's also part of why the gains are so good with it.. estrogen up-regulates androgen receptors.. part of why we cycle off and why we gain more (muscle) using aromatizing drugs.
"study, done in the early 80´s, a very high dose of Dbol (100mgs/day for 6 weeks) decreased plasma testosterone to about 40% of it´s normal value, plasma GH went up about a third, LH dropped to about 80% of it´s original value, and FSH went down about a third also (these are all approximate numbers, for the sake of brevity, but you get the idea). Body fat did not go up significantly and Fat Free Mass went up anywhere between 2-7kgs (3.3kgs average gain)" -
I suggest using 10mgs a day for around 6 weeks to help hold onto the muscle you have, and improve recovery time, nutrient absorbtion and possibly even help in fat loss.
Or- you could alternately use a dose of 30mgs with light aromatase inhibitor usage.. this would turn Dbols effects more into that of Tbol or EQ.. while retaining some of Dbols novel qualities of it's own. Nothing will match anavar here, but when life gives you Dbol.. you cut with it.
Can you get injectable test? we'd really be cooking then. ^ ^
HarryHarry
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lartinos
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Negative on cutting with dbol.
Or... Just try it and come back and tell us how it goes.
Test at a low dose with an AI with a keto diet does wonders.
Winny thrown in at the end Is an option as well.
Or... Just try it and come back and tell us how it goes.
Test at a low dose with an AI with a keto diet does wonders.
Winny thrown in at the end Is an option as well.
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i personally found dbol awful for cutting. its extremely estrogenic, and estrogen = fat storage...... so def run plenty of AI with it, id advise letro if you are set on the dbol.
what dose were you planning to run the dbol at bro?
exacly what i was gonna say.
also dbol only cycles in my op suck and oral only cycles as well.
if anything tbol would be a better choice, even then i rec a hrt dose of test atleast with it.
ArmaniAK47
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Did anyone listen to the man?
He has dbol.. not winstrol.. not tren.. not anavar..
He's asking whether or not he can cut with it... I think I explained my views earlier.
Also; My first cycle was Dbol at 10mgs/day for about a month..
gains were fantastic, I was in a great mood all day.. No fat gain noticed. No pct, no ancillary drugs.. Kept it all.
He has dbol.. not winstrol.. not tren.. not anavar..
He's asking whether or not he can cut with it... I think I explained my views earlier.
Also; My first cycle was Dbol at 10mgs/day for about a month..
gains were fantastic, I was in a great mood all day.. No fat gain noticed. No pct, no ancillary drugs.. Kept it all.
armaniak47 that was very helpful!!! I can get any injectable. The reason I want to do the dbol is because I have it. I am really not try to cut though to speak, just drop the little bit on the lower abs so I can regulate my fat when I do my bulk cycle in a few weeks. This would be a jump start. I just want to get the most out of it while running my fat burner and not put it to waste. But now after reading your post I would think about running 20mg a day with the burner because I only have 100 of 10 mg pills. How would that sound? Also I was thinking about test e 300mg and eq or tren on a mon. And thur. Dose after.
ArmaniAK47
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In my personal training opinion.. It's best to bulk into being a bodybuilder.. once you are big enough you can be lean and gain muscle, or cut easily. Some of the biggest bodybuilders I have known will be working on getting bigger but showing every vein and ab.. That's where we want to get; from a bodybuilding standpoint.
I don't know your steroid experience.. so it's hard to say on the tren.. I tend to think it's a tool we should use when we really need it, and not to be taken lightly.. Sticking to the safe and comfortable classics is best as long as possible. Dbol fits well into this category, so long as you aren't taking 30 pills a day.
If you're bulking try Test C./Dbol..
I'd say 400mgs/week test C 10-16 weeks and 10-20mgs/day dbol the first 4 weeks.
I'm also a part of the permanent HRT persuasion.. I hate ancillary drugs and PCT drugs.. I hate the crash and how hard that is on your system.. and most of all, I hate losing the gains trying to recover.. I switch over to my permanent ideal HRT level with no crash.
I "cycle off" (by that I mean revert to my HRT) only to ease any strain on my system (such as from oral preparations, harsh drugs-like tren. or high doses) and also for receptor reformatting.
I would use AI/SERMS/HCG etc only when I absolutely have to.. I prefer DHT based drugs for controlling estrogen levels so far.. But may some day use AI's as well.
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lartinos
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I would rather run no anabolics and just diet than take dbol to get cut.
ghettostudmuffin
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Dbol was probably a huge part of why Arnold was able to both grow and lose bodyfat during his 12 week contest prep time.
Nobody knows exactly what he used, but I would be willing to bet it's a safe guess that dbol and primo were what he used based off the reports of people supposedly in the know. How much nobody really knows, but dbol despite it's estrogenic properties is MASSIVELY anabolic.
I would have no issues cutting on dbol. Keep the sodium intake reasonable, drink alot of water and keep the protein intake really high like 1-1.5 grams protein per pound of bodyweight and gradually reduce calorie intake, but don't drop it too low.
I would rather keep calories reasonable like 3k a day and do more volume style workouts than pure cardio work or cut calories too low.
Var may be better for cutting, but by itself I'm not sure it would be superior to dbol. Var is great, but it can't hold a candle to dbols anabolic nature. Now test+var is a different story.
Nobody knows exactly what he used, but I would be willing to bet it's a safe guess that dbol and primo were what he used based off the reports of people supposedly in the know. How much nobody really knows, but dbol despite it's estrogenic properties is MASSIVELY anabolic.
I would have no issues cutting on dbol. Keep the sodium intake reasonable, drink alot of water and keep the protein intake really high like 1-1.5 grams protein per pound of bodyweight and gradually reduce calorie intake, but don't drop it too low.
I would rather keep calories reasonable like 3k a day and do more volume style workouts than pure cardio work or cut calories too low.
Var may be better for cutting, but by itself I'm not sure it would be superior to dbol. Var is great, but it can't hold a candle to dbols anabolic nature. Now test+var is a different story.
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lartinos
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Go to mr.Supps for a better cutting alternative then dbol!
oyvind_1989
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50mg OT (turinabol) + 100mcg Clenbuterol ed 
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ALIN
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If your trying to lose weight,,,you shouldnt be using DBOL.
