Dbol/anavar!!!

[getbig27]

im currently doing 40mg var a day going to add dbol but not sure at what dose and for how long. i've heard everything from 15mg-50mg a day for 3weeks or 8weeks. so if somone can offer some advise i would appreciate it.

should i taper the dbol or just use clomid at the end of the cycle?

 

[reconnect]

don't tape the dbol if you continue the anavar after the dbol

 

[getbig27]

thanks reconnect but what about the dose and for how long should i run the dbol to be safe?

by the way im just looking to put on 15-20lbs.

 

[Trevdog]

Run dbol no longer than 6 weeks. 4 weeks is common.

You should take liver protectants: Alpha Lipoic Acid (ALA) and milk thistle.

Best price on ALA is at www.kilosports.com.

30 mg. per day of dbol is a good dose, take it in divided doses for maximum effectiveness, or all at once if you want to minimize suppression of the HPTA. Dbol does suppress the HPTA, so you need clomid to recover natural test production. Tapering will not prevent suppression and is useless in my opinion.

Dbol is better stacked with an injectable like deca.

 

[PARABOLAN]

stack d-ball with an injectable man..

 

[mlomker]

You won't keep that much with dbol; 10 lbs perhaps. You could run it at 35mg/day for 6 weeks.

 

[reconnect]

do 4 weeks with 40 mg/d then continue for another 2 weeks with anavar

 

[getbig27]

im not at the point where i can use injectables so its oral for now. im just wondering if i should just up the var dose to 80mg a day instead of adding the dbol or will i see more mass gains using the combo dbol/var?

 

[getbig27]

instead of dbol what about just adding oral masteron (IP) to the 40mg a day of var? wouldn't i get similar size gains as i would with dbol that are more keepable???

 

[getbig27]

i just read the post on how oral masteron really is not masteron at all..so forget the question above...im gonna go with dbol and mayb winny. thing is what the fuck is the chinaman trying to pull selling that shit as oral masteron???

 

[Maxx Out]

im not at the point where i can use injectables so its oral for now. im just wondering if i should just up the var dose to 80mg a day instead of adding the dbol or will i see more mass gains using the combo dbol/var?

Go ahead and do them both together, var isn't too bad for the liver even though it is alk-17. Actually it was shown to improve liver function in many studies.

 

[MadCow1]

"Just looking for 15-20 lbs."

This place has lost its mind. Lay out 15-20lbs. of steak on a table. Does that look like a lot over a couple of months? There will be night and day difference in your physique.

 

[getbig27]

hey madcow...you crack me up bro....hahahaha i was dieing when i read your post...LOL...

ok would a more realistic goal be 8-10 solid pounds?

 

[MadCow1]

On a responsible cycle 8-10 pounds of LBM is a great result. One can gain more but it quickly becomes obvious to the general public that you are a roider (they don't just leave it as "ooo- you've been working out" when you explode out of your skin - remember stretch marks).

With 8-10 lbs. of LBM there will still be huge changes and you'll be very pleased with the results.

 

[getbig27]

great now im just worried about the post i read called "very contrivertial" where some questions regarding the sterility of IP products are in question......got me second guessing everything

 

[MadCow1]

I wouldn't worry - read my original response at bottom of pg. 1 on that thread.

Tabs are digested which kills all but the hardiest living stuff. That rumor is pure shit made up by an enemy or a paranoid freak. Regardless I don't think injecting anything other than US or big european name is wise.

I'm very conservative and I wouldn't even think twice about it.

 

[Trevdog]

great now im just worried about the post i read called "very contrivertial" where some questions regarding the sterility of IP products are in question......got me second guessing everything

Oh christ, another victim of the herd mentality. The man is golden, ok?

And you will gain much more mass by adding dbol than by upping the anavar. Dbol is a mass steriod, anavar isn't.

I don't know why you can't inject, but I suggest you get over it. Once you do, you will wonder what the hell you were worried about.

 

[getbig27]

WHY I HAVENT INJECTED ::
1)I COMPETE SO I NEED TO KNOW HOW LONG CERTAIN INJECTABLES LAST IN THE SYSTEM BEFORE STARTING.

2)NEED TO FIND SOMEONE WHO IS WILLING TO GIVE ADVICE ON HOW TO DO IT PROPERLY SO IM NOT IN FUCKING PAIN.

3)NEED THE SUPPORT OF MY FELLOW BROTHERS WHO HAVE DONE IT ALREADY.

we're all big men here but at some point in our lives we are afraid of the unknown whethter its the needle, the juice in the needle or whatever.......

trevdog--thanks for the advice on the dbol.

 

[Trevdog]

Those are good reasons for not injecting yet.

1) You will find the information you need. For duration of effect check out drug profiles on www.mesomorphosis.com.

2) Elite moderator 2thick has a good injection guide. URL anyone?

3) Injecting honestly does not hurt much at all. You probably experience worse pain several times a day and don't think twice about it. But nobody likes the idea of what seems to be a big needle sticking them. Sharp needles glide in really easy. As you said the fear is of the unknown. Once you really know what you are dealing with, it is nothing. Some people love injections. I don't like or dislike them, its just something I have to do, like dropping a duece in the morning.

 

[liquidanny]

weird stack...use anavar for bridging...it does not inhibit natural test production (at least under 30mg for certain). It keeps your weight and size. Stack dbol with an injectible...preferably nandrolone or equipoise or with GH. Androgenic orals like dbol are great with GH (next to insulin of course).

peace

 

[J-Ro]

"Just looking for 15-20 lbs."

This place has lost its mind. Lay out 15-20lbs. of steak on a table. Does that look like a lot over a couple of months? There will be night and day difference in your physique.

Good point. Even an extra 10 lean pounds would inprove your physique immensly.

 

[Revenant]

Keep this thread alive. I am interested to see your results.

 

[getbig27]

well i've got the money now all i need to do is make up my mind on what will yeild the best results right now::

1)DBOL AND VAR
or
2)VAR AND "ORAL MASTERON"
or
3)VAR AND WINNY

again my goal is just 10lbs of keepable lean mass with the least sides......nothing crazy. which combo??