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Day 2 of dermacrine

Vascular Freak

Vascular Freak

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The guys at PP were kind enough to send me a saliva test kit and a sample of Dermacrine. I sent out my current hormone levels to be tested and will test them again after about 4-5 weeks of using this product for PCT

I just finished 10 weeks of test, eq, and primo with some winstrol added in the end. I did run HCG for the last 2 weeks of my cycle while still using winstrol and prop. That all stopped at the same time and I started clomid at 50mg ed for the first week. Now in week 2 to try this product I will drop the clomid and start the dermacrine along with some cee, and other basic supps.

You apply the product just like YES, it is the same consistency and rubs in very easy. The ammount you used every morning after showering is actually enough that you cover your entire upper body, it smells decent and drys fairly well.

I will keep you all informed on my results as time goes by.... :)
 
Started the dermacrine on the 14th of feb, today is the 18th. Been using 5 pumps on my upper body after showering/exfoliating to get the max effect. So far feeling good mentally and physically in the gym. I am not as hard or dry as when using proviron and aifm with clomid but thats expected.

I don't know how I would like rubbing this all over my skin in the hot summer when your sweating alot as it could get greasy feeling, but now in the winter all is good.

I don't have any test results yet so everything is just "seat of the pants" feel.
 
Vascular Freak said:
Started the dermacrine on the 14th of feb, today is the 18th. Been using 5 pumps on my upper body after showering/exfoliating to get the max effect. So far feeling good mentally and physically in the gym. I am not as hard or dry as when using proviron and aifm with clomid but thats expected.

I don't know how I would like rubbing this all over my skin in the hot summer when your sweating alot as it could get greasy feeling, but now in the winter all is good.

I don't have any test results yet so everything is just "seat of the pants" feel.
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when you say "dry" what do you mean.
 
Needto by "dry" I mean no signs of water retention or bloat which normally is then case when test levels are good and estro is low.

BUT, provirons purpose is to harden up the physique so I was expected to look a little softer looking by dropping it?

I can't comment on libido right now because I am training very intense lately which normally shoots sex drive to shit (when cals are low)
 
Vascular Freak said:
Needto by "dry" I mean no signs of water retention or bloat which normally is then case when test levels are good and estro is low.

BUT, provirons purpose is to harden up the physique so I was expected to look a little softer looking by dropping it?

I can't comment on libido right now because I am training very intense lately which normally shoots sex drive to shit (when cals are low)
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ok cool thanks bro. :)
 
Its been 6 days now using this....also using tribulus @ 1g preworkout with cee, no2, tyrosine, and a redline drink. Workouts have been great! Strength and weight are holding steady. My test levels don't feel quite like when using clomid and provrion but that could mainly be the provrion and not the clomid.

I am getting a little bit of acne under my pecs on my upper abs from the solution I think. No big deal but noticable.

The main thing right now is that I am used to using the standard PCT drugs so I am a little uneasy and maybe critical of how I feel since I am one of the first using this. I don't have a crazy sex drive right now, but might come back soon as it has only been about 3 weeks since the test and eq cleared
 
Vascular Freak said:
Its been 6 days now using this....also using tribulus @ 1g preworkout with cee, no2, tyrosine, and a redline drink. Workouts have been great! Strength and weight are holding steady. My test levels don't feel quite like when using clomid and provrion but that could mainly be the provrion and not the clomid.

I am getting a little bit of acne under my pecs on my upper abs from the solution I think. No big deal but noticable.

The main thing right now is that I am used to using the standard PCT drugs so I am a little uneasy and maybe critical of how I feel since I am one of the first using this. I don't have a crazy sex drive right now, but might come back soon as it has only been about 3 weeks since the test and eq cleared
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nothing wrong with telling the truth. :)
 
Ulter said:
Instead of posting preworkout with Purecee, RED Blast and Thermorexin you post that.
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Oh...lol. I will be ordering some stuff up soon man, I just have loads of supps laying around so I have been concocting my own mix depending on the time of day I train...what I'm training etc.

The redlbast sounds good, and thermorexin may be in store when I drop the t3 (to keep metabolism moving)
 
vasular freak: im glad you said something about the pimples, i just realized i do have 2 pimples that popped up, but i dont know if its from the squat bar or the dermacrine. Im thinking it was the squat bar since it is exactly where i rest the bar on my back....

Vascular, we are in this together, i came off a shorter cycle, 8 weeks, and was asked to drop clomid too, i was skeptical, but science is science and lets hope this bad boy works.
 
mm107 said:
vasular freak: im glad you said something about the pimples, i just realized i do have 2 pimples that popped up, but i dont know if its from the squat bar or the dermacrine. Im thinking it was the squat bar since it is exactly where i rest the bar on my back....

Vascular, we are in this together, i came off a shorter cycle, 8 weeks, and was asked to drop clomid too, i was skeptical, but science is science and lets hope this bad boy works.
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Ha.... I hope so to bro. It sounds and looks promising. My workouts have been great and I don't feel depressed so everything else I can deal with.
 
This is my second day on it. I sent out the kit Monday and started yesterday. Will make a longer thread later.
 
Vascular Freak said:
Ha.... I hope so to bro. It sounds and looks promising. My workouts have been great and I don't feel depressed so everything else I can deal with.
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Vascular,

Are you normally on proviron when not on gear? (long amounts of time?)

-Pp
 
Testing....just seeing if my offer of independant saliva testing gets deleted again. I'm in no way questioning this new product but just curious as to why an offer from an accredited lab to do confirmation testing free was deleted. Maybe I forgot to include the word "free" in my original post and it was seen as marketing. :)
I see needto is in on this and he can attest to my cred as a testing entity...I hope. :artist:
 
medical said:
Testing....just seeing if my offer of independant saliva testing gets deleted again. I'm in no way questioning this new product but just curious as to why an offer from an accredited lab to do confirmation testing free was deleted. Maybe I forgot to include the word "free" in my original post and it was seen as marketing. :)
I see needto is in on this and he can attest to my cred as a testing entity...I hope. :artist:
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http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?p=7079694#post7079694
bro yoy may want to check your post I think you posted it in like six other threads and thought you posted it in this one but you did not it is posted in the thread right ^^^^^^^^^^^ and others if you would like me to pull them up.
as far as I know the new sponsor dos not delite post or threads or have people band.thanks :)
 
medical said:
Testing....just seeing if my offer of independant saliva testing gets deleted again. I'm in no way questioning this new product but just curious as to why an offer from an accredited lab to do confirmation testing free was deleted. Maybe I forgot to include the word "free" in my original post and it was seen as marketing. :)
I see needto is in on this and he can attest to my cred as a testing entity...I hope. :artist:
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o and btw you are a good bro. :)
 
needtogetas said:
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?p=7079694#post7079694
bro yoy may want to check your post I think you posted it in like six other threads and thought you posted it in this one but you did not it is posted in the thread right ^^^^^^^^^^^ and others if you would like me to pull them up.
as far as I know the new sponsor dos not delite post or threads or have people band.thanks :)
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You may be right but I didn't post it in 6 other threads....maybe 1! I'm just curious and actually want to try it myself! I sent PP a pm to see if I could sell them saliva testing kits but was offering it for free here.
 
Vascular Freak said:
Normally just for a few months during PCT and about a month after. Why (just curious)?
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Just trying to figure why you feel like your “test is not so high” or why your sex drive isn’t more noticeable.

Proviron has a strong influence on sex drive, so I just wondered how “dependant” you may be on it.

-Pp

Medical, I replied to your comment in another thread... never deleted any threads though...
 
medical said:
You may be right but I didn't post it in 6 other threads....maybe 1! I'm just curious and actually want to try it myself! I sent PP a pm to see if I could sell them saliva testing kits but was offering it for free here.
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well you know me bro I like to over exadurate lol. :) well I hope you do try it and
i hope all works out with pp.he is a cool bro.
 
Primordial Performance said:
Just trying to figure why you feel like your “test is not so high” or why your sex drive isn’t more noticeable.

Proviron has a strong influence on sex drive, so I just wondered how “dependant” you may be on it.

-Pp

Medical, I replied to your comment in another thread... never deleted any threads though...
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i was all over it bro.lmao dont want to get a record of doing that around here.cuz you know some people do. :)
 
Day 14 now.......basically......this shit is unreal! Aside from the acne flare up everything is great. Strengths and pumps are UNREAL....winstrol like. Sick sick sick. I don't have my sex drive back yet (6 weeks PCT) but it should return. Nothing a little cialis/viagra/yohimbe/hot chick can't fix haha
 
Vascular Freak said:
Day 14 now.......basically......this shit is unreal! Aside from the acne flare up everything is great. Strengths and pumps are UNREAL....winstrol like. Sick sick sick. I don't have my sex drive back yet (6 weeks PCT) but it should return. Nothing a little cialis/viagra/yohimbe/hot chick can't fix haha
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lots of people do experience a boost in sex drive right of the bat.some take a bit longer.sounds really good though bro.
 
As per the request of Needto I will update.....haha just jokin bro! Day 17 of dermacrine...the lab who is doing my saliva / hormone testing contacted me yesterday and said they were conducting the test and will send the results asap. I took the second test a few days ago and sent those in.....so basically there will be a before and afer 2 weeks of dermacrine test/dhea/esterone comparison. They lab is so damn slow....if they'd hurry up already I post the results.


Seat of the pants feel.... : feeling great, strong as hell, solid pumps, good recovery even while eating a low carb diet and doing 2 a days (cardio am for 45 mins ---> stairmaster and then 50mins hardcore weight training pm. No sex drive right now but I also have been working alot.....and haven't been around many chicks....just fat ugly dudes so maybe I need a good dose of porn or something????

It is making me break out like mad.....middle of my back and my chest area. I am taking tribulus preworkout as well so maybe thats causing it???
 
ALSO PLEASE READ ...... VERRRY IMPORTANT -----> you CAN apply dermacrine to your fun bag and it will not burn....but will give you big acne cysts under your bag......MORE IMPORTANTLY----> NEVER apply aifm to your sac......even if you are not on clomid you will cringe and scream like a bitch.... haha its not that important but definetly informational right?> LOL
 
Vascular: Other than the tribulus, your only PCT component is dermacrine? What have you used in previous PCT's? What difference(s) have you noticed between your past PCT's and this one?

Also, what brand tribulus are you using?

Thanks!
 
njmuscleguy said:
Vascular: Other than the tribulus, your only PCT component is dermacrine? What have you used in previous PCT's? What difference(s) have you noticed between your past PCT's and this one?

Also, what brand tribulus are you using?

Thanks!
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lot of people say trib is useless.I like it.
 
needtogetas said:
lot of people say trib is useless.I like it.
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In most studies its found useless for boosting natural test, however it can increase libido through other means.
 
needtogetas said:
lot of people say trib is useless.I like it.
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Well, I've heard the same, plus I've used some trib products before and I don't think it ever did much for me... not sure if I did enough of it, or if those products had high enough protodiocin content, or if it just plain doesn't work (for me anyway)
 
I must be the lucky one that it works for......any PCT with trib always goes much better.....strength is the main thing I notice for sure.
 
And what brand do you use?

Also, other than the tribulus, your only PCT component is dermacrine? What have you used in previous PCT's? What difference(s) have you noticed between your past PCT's and this one?
 
I have nothing but great things to say about dermacrine so far, I'm about 2 weeks in and it's treating me very well. The things I've noticed from it so far are:

- I feel great for about an hour after applying it.
- My workouts are much smoother, and I'm less fatigued after.
- I have increased energy throughout the day.
- I seem to be sleeping better at night.
- Strength is increasing each workout, as is between set recovery.
- My appetite is through the roof, eating way more than I was 2 weeks ago.

Overall, I'm extremely satisfied through the first 2 weeks, and I will post again in the next couple days to update!
 
njmuscleguy said:
And what brand do you use?

Also, other than the tribulus, your only PCT component is dermacrine? What have you used in previous PCT's? What difference(s) have you noticed between your past PCT's and this one?
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Well I ran 2 weeks of HCG along with prop and winstrol at the end of my cycle. I then dropped the hcg and gear and started clomid at 50mg ed with 2 pumps aifm. I ran that for two weeks before starting the dermacrine.

I have had a better sex drive with past PCT but this time with dermacrine I noticed that I stayed much "fuller" (muscle-wise) and strength and recovery times are great. This is giving me more acne than clomid and aifm combined but clomid never gave me acne and for some people its makes them break out bad...so it would depend on the individual.

I have been using a product called "X-Fuel" by Pro Labs, its not a widely marketed product but works great. It also has CEE and arginine/caffiene etc and is great for pre workout with a Redline drink hahaha :evil:
 
Vascular Freak said:
Day 14 now.......basically......this shit is unreal! Aside from the acne flare up everything is great. Strengths and pumps are UNREAL....winstrol like. Sick sick sick. I don't have my sex drive back yet (6 weeks PCT) but it should return. Nothing a little cialis/viagra/yohimbe/hot chick can't fix haha
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You know I noticed a very interesting thing while on Dermacrine. Day 4-8 or so I got real irritable and very strong sex drive, then days 9-18 or so the sex drive slackened off and I just felt a real increase in stamina, hard to say for strength cause I wrestle not lift these days (big submission wrestling tourney tomorrow morning that I have been training for). But definitely a performance boost for me. Now I am in week 4 and the sex drive came back strong. couple days ago did the GF before training, after trainging, next morning, and still went home for a manual on lunch break cause I saw an office girl walk by... So I would say the drive is back and strong.

And hopefully I whoop _ss tomorrow at the tourney.

DMac
 
Vascular Freak said:
I must be the lucky one that it works for......any PCT with trib always goes much better.....strength is the main thing I notice for sure.
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I don't know Trib but a product doesn't need to increase Test to boost strength, andostenedion/diole could be responsible, who knows. If it works more power to you.
 
Vascular Freak said:
Well I ran 2 weeks of HCG along with prop and winstrol at the end of my cycle. I then dropped the hcg and gear and started clomid at 50mg ed with 2 pumps aifm. I ran that for two weeks before starting the dermacrine.

I have had a better sex drive with past PCT but this time with dermacrine I noticed that I stayed much "fuller" (muscle-wise) and strength and recovery times are great. This is giving me more acne than clomid and aifm combined but clomid never gave me acne and for some people its makes them break out bad...so it would depend on the individual.

I have been using a product called "X-Fuel" by Pro Labs, its not a widely marketed product but works great. It also has CEE and arginine/caffiene etc and is great for pre workout with a Redline drink hahaha :evil:
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Third reply in a row, sorry but I haven't read this thread in a while.

How bad is the acne? Is it an inconvenience or a real problem. Did you have acne in puberty? I am curious if those with problems in puberty are the ones who will get acne with Derma, since it is pushing DHEA levels up quite a bit and I think that a jacked up DHEA level is part of puberty.

I never had any real serious issues in puberty myself, occasional pimple here and there but nothing major. And except for a couple minor pimples in week one I haven't had any probs with acne on Derma.
 
Primordial Performance said:
Vascular,

You might wanna try tanning to reduce some of that acne.

-Pp
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I have been tanning 4 x every week. Mainly just in the middle of my back all of a sudden? I have some minocycline that the derm gave me if it gets bad.
 
ZGzaZ said:
I have nothing but great things to say about dermacrine so far, I'm about 2 weeks in and it's treating me very well. The things I've noticed from it so far are:

- I feel great for about an hour after applying it.
- My workouts are much smoother, and I'm less fatigued after.
- I have increased energy throughout the day.
- I seem to be sleeping better at night.
- Strength is increasing each workout, as is between set recovery.
- My appetite is through the roof, eating way more than I was 2 weeks ago.

Overall, I'm extremely satisfied through the first 2 weeks, and I will post again in the next couple days to update!
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cool i saw a thread you made saying you have tried simaler products to.glad to here this one worked out fore you.
 
my last cycle I got some acne a few weeks after I was off.I could not figer out why I was getting acne after my cycle rather then during my cycle so I asked a few of my friends who use and I asked my doc as well.my friends said it was from the chems leaving
the body.that when I ask my doc and he said the same thing.how true it is I dont know but thats what I was told.

the paster of my old church stop drinking diet cock witch she had bin drinking for years and she got a rash so bad it hurt doc told here the same thing.like I said dont know how true it is but it seems logical to me.
 
Acne is a sign of the impurity within the body. The impurity could be in the blood, which manifests itself externally as acne. If the blood is impure, then the sebaceous (sweat) glands will have to work harder in eliminating these wastes. This hyperactivity of the sweat glands causes acne.
Various skin conditions are related with increased toxicity in the body. The body has its own detoxification system by which it throws out blood-borne toxins called allergens. When this internal detoxification system is impaired due to some reason, the toxins produced through the metabolic process start accumulating in various organs and give rise to skin conditions like acne .
drug toxicity (usually from steroids)leaving the body can cause acne
 
needtogetas said:
Acne is a sign of the impurity within the body. The impurity could be in the blood, which manifests itself externally as acne. If the blood is impure, then the sebaceous (sweat) glands will have to work harder in eliminating these wastes. This hyperactivity of the sweat glands causes acne.
Various skin conditions are related with increased toxicity in the body. The body has its own detoxification system by which it throws out blood-borne toxins called allergens. When this internal detoxification system is impaired due to some reason, the toxins produced through the metabolic process start accumulating in various organs and give rise to skin conditions like acne .
drug toxicity (usually from steroids)leaving the body can cause acne
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guess there is a lot of truth to it.lol
 
I would suggest a antioxidant made op of some of these ingredients from custom caps
Beta Carotene (ProVitamin A)
mg
N/A


Blackcurrant Fruit Extract
mg
N/A


Chlorella
mg
N/A


Cranberry Extract (10:1)
mg
N/A


Grape Seed Extract (95% OPC)
mg
N/A


Green Tea Extract (50% Catechins)
mg
N/A


N-acetyl-L-cysteine (NAC)
mg
N/A


Quercetin (Quercetin Dihydrate)
mg
N/A


Rutin
mg
N/A


Vitamin C (Ascorbic Acid)
mg
60 mg


Vitamin E (dl-alpha-tocopherol)
http://www.customcapsule.com/index.html
 
needtogetas said:
I would suggest a antioxidant made op of some of these ingredients from custom caps
Beta Carotene (ProVitamin A)
mg
N/A


Blackcurrant Fruit Extract
mg
N/A


Chlorella
mg
N/A


Cranberry Extract (10:1)
mg
N/A


Grape Seed Extract (95% OPC)
mg
N/A


Green Tea Extract (50% Catechins)
mg
N/A


N-acetyl-L-cysteine (NAC)
mg
N/A


Quercetin (Quercetin Dihydrate)
mg
N/A


Rutin
mg
N/A


Vitamin C (Ascorbic Acid)
mg
60 mg


Vitamin E (dl-alpha-tocopherol)
http://www.customcapsule.com/index.html
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that's not bad bro ;)
 
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