D-bols first timer..

[holy ghost]

Maybe size will piss out but not 100% of your gained strength LEGIT size muscle fibers and shit still its a bad idea and a recipe for disaster

1-10 250mg test e
1-4 dbol 20mg ed
then you can keep your "defined" look "mate"

 

[heraclez]

does it always have to be 1-10 250mg testosterone enanthate or test sust etc??

i mean i thought 'test' are the recipes for strength, but here it seems that if u want muscle increase than test sust and all these other test-somethings are required??

i mean what is the importance of r the addition of test's...

isn't it mainly to inhibit the estrogenic effects?, having said that do they act like anti-estrogen drugs? whats the differences, fill me in...

 

[! RUSSIAN BEAR !]

a nice first cycle i would go for

1-10 weeks testosterone enanthate 250mg x2
aifm 2-3 pumps a day


mon/250mg test e
thu/250mg test e


p-c-t
nolvadex - 3 weeks
clomid - 3 weeks


this will be a lot better for you in the long run than dbol
but its up to you im only tryin to help you

 

[heraclez]

fairplay, although im still awaiting for the ellaboration on differences in testosterone stuff...

--->> aifm 2-3 pumps a day ??

how about a

3 x 10mg d-bols everyday
monday and thrusday - 250 of test. enth ??

is that a better cycle? (and yes consider that PCTherapy)

 

[702daswoll1]

Yes that is better but run the dbol for 4 weeks and the test for 10. Then do your pct with clomid and nolva. HCG would help too...

 

[xrsist]

 

[resqguy]

Agreed.

 

[s8nlilhlpr2]

fairplay, although im still awaiting for the ellaboration on differences in testosterone stuff...

--->> aifm 2-3 pumps a day ??

how about a

3 x 10mg d-bols everyday
monday and thrusday - 250 of test. testosterone enanthate ??

is that a better cycle? (and yes consider that PCTherapy)

I'm curious how long you've actually researched this 'since you don't know what the difference Testosterone's are.....

Enan/Cyp longest esters, take a few weeks to feel effects
Sust, generally pharm grade, mixed esters between long/short
Prop, short ester, kicks in fast but needs to be injected ed/eod

And, no, AIFM is not considered P C T. I'm sure someone will chime in with a product push here, but AIFM is simply an anti-e for during/after cycle. H C C/Clomid should still be used for P C T.

 

[hayz]

Oi dude, dont rush into this shit, blind. You will only fuck yourself up and say why the fuck didnt i listen to the dudes at EF.

Go put you D-bol out of sight for a few weeks atleast and read all the stickys at the top of the forum and as many posts as you can, you will learn alot.

Test should always be the base of a first cycle or its just a waste of friggin time.

Just remember test is test, dont worry bout wot sort of esters they are, just make sure ya use one.