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D-Bol without test

run it with the test, there are plenty of compounds out there that will combat gynocomastia. look into arimidex.
 
sure you can run it with creatine,l-glutamine and whey protein also.........LOL

but TEST IS PREFERRED
 
Most people would say test is best and yes this is probably true. But there is no reason you couldn't run something like primo with it. Although I believe picking the right compound is important and can effect the outcome of the cycle. It has been said numerous times the most important thing is diet and training. Yes with a stack like dbol and primo you will make gains. If everything is in check they will be good gains. Test does not always have to be taken.
 
flotown said:
Most people would say test is best and yes this is probably true. But there is no reason you couldn't run something like Primobolan - methenolone - with it. Although I believe picking the right compound is important and can effect the outcome of the cycle. It has been said numerous times the most important thing is diet and training. Yes with a stack like Dianabol - methandrostenolone - and Primobolan - methenolone - you will make gains. If everything is in check they will be good gains. Test does not always have to be taken.
good post... :)
 
I would stack dbol/deca If you dont want to do test, and some anti estrogens. deca and dbol work good togather and daca helps you keep you gains. so does primo but never done primo.
 
dont run the d bol too long it has allot of water retention in it. use it only 6-8 wks. then bump up primo and dont take winnie too long at the end. but all in all looks good but I am no master just know a little about cycles/gear
 
getbig1234 said:
dont run the d bol too long it has allot of water retention in it. use it only 6-8 wks. then bump up Primobolan - methenolone - and dont take winnie too long at the end. but all in all looks good but I am no master just know a little about cycles/gear


4 weeks of dbol is more than enough for the start of a cycle. the last 4 weeks of the cycle use winny. drink plenty of water and some milk thistle might be an idea. test would be better tho....
 
Hm if you run multiple short cycles of dbol with spot on diet and proper pct i would think you would like it but if you are prone to gyno then its a crap shoot it seems.
 
do you know that dbol cause gyno also? I assume so, so yes you can run other compounds besides test. You could try primo or eq, but I'd consider running some proviron along with it so your dick still works.
 
hyp1 said:

I completely agree with matty and Hyp test is best look into arimidex,.... also if your not looking for max gains yes Primobolan - methenolone - is good choice, but my personal preference would be masteron instead of Primobolan - methenolone - , even though Dianabol - methandrostenolone - it self will cause gynecomastia.

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