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D Bol only - short cycle results!

djufo said:
scientificaly it should be impossible to gain 1 pound of lean muscle per day..just imagine what happens with 8, 10 or 12 weeks cycles. Although, this is an interesting thread...cause we know most of those 13 pounds are water and maybe some fat, but the important thing is that this short cycle is able to put you on the nex plateau without the need of a PCT. If you keep working out and eating right in the next weeks you'll keep loosing water but you have the chance to take advantage of that gained strenght and keep developing new muscle.

I agree. When I got on the scale I realized there could be no way to pack on 1lb per day. Like i said earlier, I think it gave me a jumpstart. I think I am gaining muscle now just as fast or faster than I am losing water so my weight stays constant and my strength keeps going up. (exactly what you said) I plan to do a bigger cycle but honestly, I dont think people give near enough credit to short cycles.
 
E23 said:
did the dbol make you eat more?

Really cant say for sure. Could have been many other factors such as my grow grow grow mindset that came about with the first pill. Whatever it was, I was almost always hungry it seemed. Hell, I still feel that way.

If you have appetite trouble there are other things you can do that will make you really hungry :mexican:
 
post cycle update

It's been another week and my strength has gone up a little more and I am +11 lbs from the start of the cycle. I will definately be doing the same short cycle again soon.
 
Water gains will be the most noticable gain, but there will be muscle mass too, just not a whole lot of it. I think its something that is beneficial for someone who's needing a little edge without blowing up overnight. Keeping the cycles short and with 3 weeks off is good to help solidify those gains before your next 2 weeker. Much better than staying on for 5 or 6 weeks and getting bloated up just to lose half of it right away. It may not be good for the hardcore or more advanced AAS user, but for a novice or amatuer who's wanting a boost, I think its good.
Just my change on this subject, and I happen to have a bottle of Ref-B laying around so I might give this a try myself.
 
My bro is doing a test cycle now and is benching 300 at 150 lbs. He benches 275 before this cycle and hopes to hit 320 before he's done.
 
Couple of things...

Although I was one of the first advocates of the advantages of short cycles, I think 2 weeks is too short, but glad to hear it worked out for you.

If you continue to do the "back and forth" 2
on, 3 off plan that Bill Roberts recomended a few years back, you will get diminished gains and remained supressed.

D-bol is misunderstood. People think it's bloating and it makes you sleepy. THAT IS NOT REAL D-BOL! Guys in the 60's and 70's and 80's used D-bol right up to contest time and were ripped! Most D-bol today is metyltest with histimine (to increase appitite, but it makes you drowsy). I often wonder if 90% of the people who give opinions on D-bol have ever really used it.
 
Well the dbol I'm using is paperbol (the original source), which gets good reviews from everyone. Frankly, I am sleepy all day and I get a few extra boners per day, but I'm not bloated and I don't have extra strength. It's the 5th day (let's see how today's workout goes) at 25mg/day plus injectables. Kind of dissapointed so far but I'm training like a madman and eating 6x a day for total of 400g protein and lots of calories.

If paperbol is not real anymore, then it's impossible to trust any dbol since there are so many underdosed thais.
 
Nelson Montana said:
Couple of things...

D-bol is misunderstood. People think it's bloating and it makes you sleepy. THAT IS NOT REAL D-BOL! Guys in the 60's and 70's and 80's used D-bol right up to contest time and were ripped! Most D-bol today is metyltest with histimine (to increase appitite, but it makes you drowsy). I often wonder if 90% of the people who give opinions on D-bol have ever really used it.

I've never heard this before. I always feel sleepy the first few days I'm on Dbol, I assumed it was my bodies way of dealing with its introduction.

Do other bro's agree that many of us who feel the drowsy sensation are taking a metyltest / histimine fake?
 
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