D bol and VPX 1 test a good cycle?

[DIESELSUPERSAIYAN23]

I play college football and want to get an edge next year when all the seniors are gone, anyways is D BOL and VPX 1 test a good cycle? my friend took Erghopharm 1 ad and got some good results but I want to take VPX 1 test I heard is better, anyone has an opinion they can help me?

 

[ThePizmo]

hey bud...

First, i think this thread is better off in the anabolics forum...They'd probably know better than some of us..

Second, from what ive read and heard, mixing AS's and PH's is kinda frowned upon...i dont know the exact science why, but its just what i heard (could be wrong).

1-ad and 1-test alone are kick ass, i know from experience.

I wouldnt see anything wrong with taking a dbol cycle...getting your gains and size, taking a few weeks off (post cycle of anti-estro) and then trying the 1-test alone. Thats what id do anyway.

Like i said, im only giving an opinon, I could be 110% wrong...again, you should ask over in the anaboics forum.

piz

 

[DIESELSUPERSAIYAN23]

THANX ALOT MAN, WELL NEW TO THIS PRO HORMONE AND REAL GEAR , STUFF I HAVE PRETTY MUCH BEEN NATURAL BUT I THINK IS TIME TO GET AND EDGE THANX FOR YOUR OPINION

 

[d3track]

first off, are you going to be tested?
dianabol is c-17 and toxic to the liver and should be taken in small cycles
plus you will absolutly need anti e's after this
then you may want to think of using injectable test instead of 1-t, espcially if you have a source

 

[DIESELSUPERSAIYAN23]

d3Track


Well yeah i'm going to be tested but that is not the issue really, is hard to get caught at the college level everyone does it and coaches know about it , anyways I'm planning to start with 15mg of D bol daily finishing with 30mg for 4 weeks, my biggest question is what works better vpx 1 t or erghopharm 1 ad still need to decide of the two!!

 

[d3track]

i was also a colligate athlete, so i know what goes on

you need to do a lot more research before you start putting anything in your body, or you will get busted

when using dianabol you hold alot of water and people will get suspicious
if you are looking at vpx 1-test the real stuff is cheaper

but you really need to look into all of this alot more before you jump into anything

 

[Sir Foxx]

1-Test isn't a PH, so a D-Bol/1-Test cycle would be fine, although their is no reason you can't mix a real PH with AAS(other than if you can get real gear why go with a PH?) Front load the D-Bol, start high, not low(30mg ED for first 4 weeks).

Go with a 1-Test transdermal instead of VPX or 1-AD. You will get much better results.

 

[young guns]

my question is, if you're gonna go illegal with Dbol, why take 1-test?

you already said you're new to this, so why not take some time to learn about what you're gonna take. and there are better alternatives (IMO) to 1-test if youre going the illegal route.

plus, do you really know anything about dbol, or did some football buddy tell you to take it cause you'll get huge? it's a 17aa steroid, meaning it has a methyl group attached to carbon 17. alkylated steroids are toxic to the liver.

dbol has a high aromatization rate, meaning high conversion to estrogen. why's that matter? well you could get gyno, and you're likely to put on alot of water weight (that's the main reason you look huge), which not only makes you look real bloated, but can also cause blood pressure problems. this is why d3 mentioned the need for an anti-estrogen of some kind.

it's also a strong androgen, so it can accelerate hair loss and aggrevate acne. on a plus side, it's androgenic potency explains it's significant strenght increases.

it's suppressive, meaning it will mess up the HPTA (hypothalamic pituitary testicular axis), which means your body will produce less testosterone due to the presence of exogenous hormone. this can result in post cycle "crash", where testosterone levels are low and estrogen levels high, making for a terrible environment for muscle growth and a great one for loss of gains from the cycle, of which alot will be water weight. so post cycle therapy is necessary. hope you've looked into this too, as 1-test is also supressive.

now will you encounter all these side? probably not. some of them? likely. but you should know what COULD happen and be prepared for it. and just to be sure i'm clear, 1-test can cause some of the listed sides also, or some others not mentioned.

there are tons of sites that give information about particular steroids. i suggest you do a little reading and learn some more. read through some old threads here to find out more info too.

and not to be ignorant, but from what you've asked/posted, you just don't seem to know much about what you're gonna take. if you post this on the anabolic board you are likely to get more smart remarks and flames than serious answers. read up, get the background knowledge, then ask for advice.

 

[Sir Foxx]

Diesel,

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