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jdevlin1985

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Hello guys. i am halfway through my clen/cytomel cycle with 50mcg winny EOD. It hasnt even been 2 weeks and the results are amazing. i am yet to measure my b/f as yet but my abs are screaming and the bottom 2 abs are visable so i guess i am pretty low. (i will keep you informed) i am now up to 75mcg of cytomel tapered slowly up and 4 tabs of clen.

Have any of you guys had any good experiences of clen/ctyomel stack?
 
Softness has always been my problem, I have a clen/T3 mission coming up. Hoping it will help tighten the waist.

I've used clen PCT and found it helped keep my strength gains. Heard that the body stops responding to its anti-catabolic effects quickly so I use short split cycles.

Do you think I should use the T3 with the juice? Would that stop gains or would I lose muscle if I use it PCT? Mr BALCO claims that T3 in conjunction with juice enhances protein synthesis so I thought I'd go for that.

Good to hear that you're ripping. Watch the cytomel dose, the literature seems to suggestive its much riskier than the actual steroids to use.
 
i'm on a t3/clen/dbol cycle right now. i really wish i would have opted for prop instead of dbol. cuz i my first weigh-in was at 198. then 1 week later i was at 203??? so i don't know if i'm holding water from the dbol or what. how long have you been on the t3? today i'm starting 125mcg t3 and will go until thurs. and start tapering back down. also 80mcg/clen and 20mg dbol (just to maintain gains).


a-bomb
 
a-bomb5083 said:
i'm on a t3/clen/dbol cycle right now. i really wish i would have opted for prop instead of dbol. cuz i my first weigh-in was at 198. then 1 week later i was at 203??? so i don't know if i'm holding water from the dbol or what. how long have you been on the t3? today i'm starting 125mcg t3 and will go until thurs. and start tapering back down. also 80mcg/clen and 20mg dbol (just to maintain gains).


I have been on cycle for 2 weeks 2mo - bud that is a high dose of t3 you wil risk messing up your thyroid perm. are you/have you tapered slowly up to that dose - which is a must - or just jumped straight in?
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Jdevlin1985 said:
i am now up to 75mcg of cytomel tapered slowly up and 4 tabs of clen.
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Ignoramus. Read the original quote before jumping to conclusions. He's not even in the triple-digit range with the T3.

JD, I say congrats to your cycle results. Keep stickin the winny to maintain the muscle.

-e
 
massatronic said:
Softness has always been my problem, I have a clen/T3 mission coming up. Hoping it will help tighten the waist.

I've used clen PCT and found it helped keep my strength gains. Heard that the body stops responding to its anti-catabolic effects quickly so I use short split cycles.

Do you think I should use the T3 with the juice? Would that stop gains or would I lose muscle if I use it PCT? Mr BALCO claims that T3 in conjunction with juice enhances protein synthesis so I thought I'd go for that.

Good to hear that you're ripping. Watch the cytomel dose, the literature seems to suggestive its much riskier than the actual steroids to use.
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always use steroid with T3...T3 is EXTREMELY catabolic...T3 at low dose, i.e. 12.5 mcg is supposed to increase protein synthesis

clen lowers blood plasma levels and clenbuterol is NOT anticatabolic...that rumor was spread wrong.... it is only anticatabolic in mice....find a study for humans...it doesnt exist.
 
bicepts101 said:
always use steroid with T3...T3 is EXTREMELY catabolic...T3 at low dose, i.e. 12.5 mcg is supposed to increase protein synthesis

clen lowers blood plasma levels and clenbuterol is NOT anticatabolic...that rumor was spread wrong.... it is only anticatabolic in mice....find a study for humans...it doesnt exist.
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it had been a while since i talked about this...i though was beta-3...but i had to check..here:

Clenbuterol is really one of body-building’s
most misunderstood performance enhancement drugs. It is true that it is effective in helping to burn bodyfat but it is often been stated that clenbuterol is effective in causing anabolic gains and has in times even been compared to some of the weaker anabolic steroids. Books such as the World Anabolic Review, 1996, by P. Grunding and M. Bachmann state incorrectly that, “its effects, however, can by all means be compared to those of steroids. Similar to a combination of Winstrol Depot and Oxandrolone....” These statements are inaccurate and misleading to say the least. A lot of these claims as to the anabolic effects of clenbuterol are derived from studying the effects of clenbuterol on livestock. Clenbuterol is effective in increasing muscle mass and decreasing fat loss
in animals. The problem with the variation in anabolic effects between humans and livestock is that livestock have an abundance of the type 3 beta receptors whereas humans have little if any of the type 3 beta receptors. These beta-3 receptors increases insulin secretion and sensitivity, causing more glucose and amino acids to be transported into skeletal muscle thus causing the anabolic effects that we, humans, just aren’t seeing.
 
benny1970 said:
What do lower blood plasma levels mean? Effects?
thx
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blood plasma is basically the liquid part of the blood....blood thickens, blood volume decreases, blood pressure rises, heart needs to a lot more work
 
I have used T3 and Clen in the past. I noticed that I don't really need Clen, the T3 by itself works great. That saves alot of money for me (not that liquid clen is expensive). I have used for up to 150mcg and as long as 4 months. I have not taken any blood work so I do not know if there are any adverese side effects. But I have not noticed any. I plan on using 75mcg on a bulking cycle with Fina and Test to see what happens.
 
brickbatstone said:
I have used T3 and Clen in the past. I noticed that I don't really need Clen, the T3 by itself works great. That saves alot of money for me (not that liquid clen is expensive). I have used for up to 150mcg and as long as 4 months. I have not taken any blood work so I do not know if there are any adverese side effects. But I have not noticed any. I plan on using 75mcg on a bulking cycle with Fina and Test to see what happens.
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up to 150 mcg? Have you noticed any neg side effects at that dosage? What brand you usin?
Thanks, I have been using 62.5 mcg of cynomel for quite a while, but it seems to be losing its fat burning effect at that dose.
 
escher said:
Ignoramus. Read the original quote before jumping to conclusions. He's not even in the triple-digit range with the T3.

JD, I say congrats to your cycle results. Keep stickin the winny to maintain the muscle.

-e
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Cheers -e - will keep you informed of results bud.
 
Clen is indeed catabolic for humans.
Salbutamol is the human counterpart for clen.
And it has proven to be really anabolic.
It looks like everyone in bb is afraid of experimenting.
Isn't clen a thing of the past?
Collomp K, Candau R, Lasne F, Labsy Z, Prefaut C, De Ceaurriz J. Effects of short-term oral salbutamol administration on exercise endurance and metabolism. J Appl Physiol. 2000 Aug;89(2):430-6. [PubMed]

Kissel JT, McDermott MP, Mendell JR, King WM, Pandya S, Griggs RC, Tawil R. Randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial of albuterol in facioscapulohumeral dystrophy. Neurology 2001 Oct 23;57(8):1434-40. [PubMed]

Uc EY, Lambert CP, Harik SI, Rodnitzky RL, Evans WJ. Albuterol Improves Response to Levodopa and Increases Skeletal Muscle Mass in Patients With Fluctuating Parkinson Disease. Clin Neuropharmacol. 2003 Jul-Aug;26(4):207-212. [PubMed]
 
[/QUOTE]I have been on cycle for 2 weeks 2mo - bud that is a high dose of t3 you wil risk messing up your thyroid perm. are you/have you tapered slowly up to that dose - which is a must - or just jumped straight in

first of all, it takes a whole lot of synthetic t3 to perm.damage your thyroid. and yes i started tapering up at 25mcg and will be on 125mcg for a total of 4 days and tapering back down.
 
pharmguy said:
up to 150 mcg? Have you noticed any neg side effects at that dosage? What brand you usin?
Thanks, I have been using 62.5 mcg of cynomel for quite a while, but it seems to be losing its fat burning effect at that dose.
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Only two side effects that I have noticed. Blurred vision and (rarely) my heart felt like it "jumped". But they both were gone when I started to taper down around 25mcg.
 
fUnstable said:
Clen is indeed catabolic for humans.
Salbutamol is the human counterpart for clen.
And it has proven to be really anabolic.
It looks like everyone in bb is afraid of experimenting.
Isn't clen a thing of the past?
Collomp K, Candau R, Lasne F, Labsy Z, Prefaut C, De Ceaurriz J. Effects of short-term oral salbutamol administration on exercise endurance and metabolism. J Appl Physiol. 2000 Aug;89(2):430-6. [PubMed]

Kissel JT, McDermott MP, Mendell JR, King WM, Pandya S, Griggs RC, Tawil R. Randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial of albuterol in facioscapulohumeral dystrophy. Neurology 2001 Oct 23;57(8):1434-40. [PubMed]

Uc EY, Lambert CP, Harik SI, Rodnitzky RL, Evans WJ. Albuterol Improves Response to Levodopa and Increases Skeletal Muscle Mass in Patients With Fluctuating Parkinson Disease. Clin Neuropharmacol. 2003 Jul-Aug;26(4):207-212. [PubMed]
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True! Most bodybuilders are afraid of experimenting or going out on a limb. It seems to me that anything that increases metabolic rate to a measureable extent is gonna be catabolic.
 
Clen/t3 is my favorite fat loss stack.
I can lose 15lbs in a month no probs on it.
Wouldn't go higher than 100mg of T3 personally. I just don't need to.
It almost works too well, when ive lost enough fat I keep loosing more for another couple of weeks after stopping. Probably due to clen's long half life.
 
I looked into & suggested salbutamol / albuterol a few months ago & no one thought it was a good idea - I think it's really worth looking at salbutamol just cos it's so damn cheap & available.
 
duke of earl said:
I looked into & suggested salbutamol / albuterol a few months ago & no one thought it was a good idea - I think it's really worth looking at salbutamol just cos it's so damn cheap & available.
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Can salbuterol be bought without scrip in the UK?

Can it be taken via inhaler at a decent dose?

Thanks for your help
 
Just go to your doc and tell him you have exercise asthma and that you weeze. They'll give you a script for salbutamol inhaler, its so common.
 
benny1970 said:
Just go to your doc and tell him you have exercise asthma and that you weeze. They'll give you a script for salbutamol inhaler, its so common.
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Thanks Benny, what does the dose work out as on an inhaler?

Also do you know if its sensible to use clen or sal around training or should I use it to boost BMR elsewhere in the day?
 
massatronic said:
Thanks Benny, what does the dose work out as on an inhaler?

Also do you know if its sensible to use clen or sal around training or should I use it to boost BMR elsewhere in the day?
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To have an anabolic effect of salbutamol you need the oral form in the range of 14-16 mg a day.The inhaler works only in the lungs and is measured in micrograms!!!
 
jdevlin1985 said:
Hello guys. i am halfway through my clen/cytomel cycle with 50mcg winny EOD. It hasnt even been 2 weeks and the results are amazing. i am yet to measure my b/f as yet but my abs are screaming and the bottom 2 abs are visable so i guess i am pretty low. (i will keep you informed) i am now up to 75mcg of cytomel tapered slowly up and 4 tabs of clen.

Have any of you guys had any good experiences of clen/ctyomel stack?
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im up to start the same cycle on monday(winstrol,cytomel and clen)>>>can you help me and elaborate on this stack little bit more...i mean doses week by week??????
 
hey guys i could really use your help. I am currently about 3 weeks in to a tren acetate, test cyp, and winny cycle and i have eight weeks till my competition but what i am wondering is by taking t3 and clen cycle will i still loose muscle mass if im on those listed above or will they stop the catabolic affect? and should i eat more when i get on them or keep my cutting diet the same?
 
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