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cypionate cycle change to test/deca?

teambulk23

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so i toke a cypionate cycle for 10 weeks of 600cc per week..300cc each shot monday and fridays..i'am 5'8 22 years of age and went from 150 to 170 in that time spand..i stoped taking injections almost 2 weeks ago..my question would be is it safe to start a cycle of test/deca at this moment? or i should go threw the pct process at this point and recover from my cycle..i would eat no less than 6 solid meals a day and train hard at the gym..feedback will be great..and if i could cycle it now..what would be a good dosage? and if i cant cycle..how long after i finish my pct would be a good time to start the new cycle

thanks in advance
 
good lord I don't know where to start. I hope you don't take my post as flaming, but I am trying to save you a world of hurt so I'm gonna tell you straight up what I think, you can either get mad at me for telling you the truth or you can listen to my advice and thank me in a couple years when you look back and realize how foolish you were.. its up to you but here goes:

150 pounds and juicing.. i hope you are a midgit first off or just really really short. 2nd off you put on 20 pounds.. you did not run an AI at all + you were way below your genetic potential. seems to me you are relying on steroids to make the scale go up and that is your only mission. that is buffoonery, the scale doesn't mean shit if you have a moon face and you are bloated up from all that water weight.

3rd off it takes cyp 5 weeks to even clear your system so after 2 weeks its still in your system... your estrogen levels are sky high. and i guarantee you will crash hard with no pct.

if you jump on another 'cycle' then its not cycling now is it? thats like saying its gonna go from summer to spring.. it doesn't work like that.. you gotta cycle off time on = time off. so that would mean you got 15 weeks of off time starting in 3 weeks.. so you won't be pinning anything for a total of 18 weeks since your last pin. if you jump back on now you will be running just 1 very long 'cycle' as you put it. and will just have that much harder of a recovery and since you want to run deca good lord thats gonna be a horrible situation to put yourself into at 22.

and finally what is your PCT? if you aren't already on hcg, and you didn't run an AI during cycle then your recovery is gonna be painful. very painful. the crash is gonna come hard in another couple weeks and you won't like it. I would get on HCG immediately and you need to be running your AI as well
 
my pct will consist of hcg and clomed/nolv..had to wait for the supplier..and yes i know i should of had everything on hand to start with but at the time it wasnt all avaliable
 
Hcg should be run on cycle and before pct so that recover quicker. People will say to drop the nolva I have ran it and didn't experience anything negative at all but many ppl do. A low dose of clomid and natural test boosting products are typically what is recommended; such as daa, unleashed/post cycle, hcgenerate, etc.

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i know you cant really give me a true answer to it, but more or less how many pounds will i lose threw the recovery? i have been training harder than when i was on cycle..still eating 6 solid meals, and started taking weight gainer again(cytogainer)
 
i know you cant really give me a true answer to it, but more or less how many pounds will i lose threw the recovery? i have been training harder than when i was on cycle..still eating 6 solid meals, and started taking weight gainer again(cytogainer)



I can tell you ,it's not the pounds you should be concerning loosing, Time on +Time off this allows your HPTA to recover, to do otherwise tells me you have no business doing steroids.
 
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clomid 25/25/25/25
unleashed/post cycle combo
forma stanzol
daa powerchews or powder

i dont even know where to begin with everything else... im just fucking in awe... listen to everything that steve told you because its great advice... pct is THE MOST IMPORTANT part of the cycle man... what you keep is up to you... if you bust your ass, eat right and stay disciplined then you can keep your gains...
 
i know you cant really give me a true answer to it, but more or less how many pounds will i lose threw the recovery? i have been training harder than when i was on cycle..still eating 6 solid meals, and started taking weight gainer again(cytogainer)

you still don't grasp my post.. go back and re-read it.. then re-read it again a 2nd time. then research my thread about half lives, and re-read that a 2nd time.

you are still right now ON CYCLE. you really think after you stop injecting then poof the stuff magically leaves the body? with orals yes they will be out after 2 weeks.. but most injectables takes weeks to get to low levels in the body. how nice you still feel great and are eating a lot and working your ass off... but will you be once those extra hormones are out of the body??? probably not because you were 150 pounds prior which meant you weren't putting in the work before touching steroids. now maybe I will be wrong and you will be keep kicking ass through the ups and then the downs, i have no idea. but it shouldn't take steroids to convince you to work out hard.

as far as PCT you should already be on hcg RIGHT NOW. and you should of already been on an AI during cycle. you gained 20 pounds cause its mostly water weight cause your estrogen is sky high. also follow what dylan wrote for PCT.. that is the most consistent and proven PCT we have today in the year 2012.

and before you touch deca you need to learn more about that compound, specifically what progesterone risks you will be dealing with and how to counter them. deca is a poor choice based on your age + your lack of knowledge on AAS .. now you might say 'ah fuck it, i just want to gain i'm gonna ignore this advice' ... if you do that i guarantee that you will be regretting that decision afterwards
 
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