cyp or enth?

[instant.muscle]

mg for mg, what is stronger take for example 200mg of test cyp or 200mp of test E. and also if one outweights the other by being better, by how much? i got a bottle of qv cyp 200 and qv enanthate 250. so wat would b strong 200mg of cyp or 240 of enanthate? thanx!

 

[mstigi]

With the exception of Suspension (water based), I believe a mg of oil based Testosterone is the same strength no mater what ester. I is just a matter of preference, some people have more bloat with some, or stronger side effects

 

[Slyder190]

Cyp and Enan are pretty much identical, but I'd always choose Cyp first.

 

[blut wump]

It's all down to ester length. The longer the ester then the more weight of the molecule is taken up by the ester and less by the base test. The cyp ester is longer than the enanthate ester by just a single carbon atom so you get slightly more test in a given weight of enan.

Here are numbers I found on the 'Net for the test available in 100mg of various esters:
Testosterone (no ester) 100mg
Acetate 87.26mg
Propionate 83.72mg
Enanthate 71.99mg
Cypionate 69.90mg
Decanoate 65.15mg


Take a read of this:
http://www.elitefitness.com/articledata/esters.html

 

[Mr_MAX]

It's all down to ester length. The longer the ester then the more weight of the molecule is taken up by the ester and less by the base test. The cyp ester is longer than the enanthate ester by just a single carbon atom so you get slightly more test in a given weight of enan.

Here are numbers I found on the 'Net for the test available in 100mg of various esters:
Testosterone (no ester) 100mg
Acetate 87.26mg
Propionate 83.72mg
Enanthate 71.99mg
Cypionate 69.90mg
Decanoate 65.15mg


Take a read of this:
http://www.elitefitness.com/articledata/esters.html

good info.

 

[JP@Ironology]

I like cyp better

 

[blut wump]

mg for mg, what is stronger take for example 200mg of test cyp or 200mp of test E. and also if one outweights the other by being better, by how much? i got a bottle of qv cyp 200 and qv enanthate 250. so wat would b strong 200mg of cyp or 240 of enanthate? thanx!

From the numbers I posted earlier,
200mg cyp has 200 * .699 = 139.8mg test
250mg enan has 250 * .7199 = 179.975mg test

 

[peach0341]

Give them both a try and see which one works best for you. Different things work for different people.

 

[instant.muscle]

From the numbers I posted earlier,
200mg cyp has 200 * .699 = 139.8mg test
250mg enan has 250 * .7199 = 179.975mg test

if this is true 250mg of en would deff b better than 200mg of cyp then right?

 

[blut wump]

if this is true 250mg of en would deff b better than 200mg of cyp then right?

Assuming those molecular weight-based numbers are correct, the 250 of enan has about 29% more test than the 200 of cyp. The half-life of each is about the same.

Which is 'best' I can't say. Some people just prefer cyp for whatever reason.

 

[nydj66]

From the numbers I posted earlier,
200mg cyp has 200 * .699 = 139.8mg test
250mg enan has 250 * .7199 = 179.975mg test

This is a little misleading comparing 200mg of cyp to 250mg of enanthate. Gram for gram there's not much difference between the two. Cyp has a slightly longer half-life but enanthate is less expensive.

 

[blut wump]

Not my call, bro. That was the original question: 250 enan or 200 cyp. Actually, it was 240 not 250, my mistake there but I assumed it was a typo and he has or would get amps of 250.

To straighten the numbers out:
200mg enan has 200 * .7199 = 143.98mg test
200mg cyp has 200 * .699 = 139.8mg test

Cyp has a very slightly longer ester so the molecule is slightly heavier and you get slightly less test in a given weight of cyp to the same weight of enan. The half-life of cyp is correspondingly very slightly longer, which might be why some prefer it. The differences are small.

 

[Güclü_oglan]

cyp won't dissolve in oil together with small ammounts of BA and requires more and makes it more painful unless you're lucky. They're identical but the reason i would chose cyp instead is if it was cheap (powders cost the same)

 

[slat1]

I like QV enanthate!

 

[ElMatador]

Very similar products...not much difference...but I will choose enantahte...anyway

 

[genarr3]

You will never notice a difference between the two.

 

[blut wump]

You will never notice a difference between the two.

I just saw a website which said that one of the big benefits of enan over cyp was that "It only needs to be administered once every 7 days as opposed to cypionate's weekly injections".

I guess that pretty much says it all.

 

[ripper911]

I just saw a website which said that one of the big benefits of enan over cyp was that "It only needs to be administered once every 7 days as opposed to cypionate's weekly injections".

I guess that pretty much says it all.

That makes no sense...........every 7 days is weekly

 

[dsh89]

LOL I bet someone out there went "See I told you Enan is better!" when they read that. And who the hell wrote that? It is sad.