Cyle help

[grbnike]

So ill be running my first cyle of test e and either injectable or oral winny ( which would you reccomend ) .. and a pct reccomendation

Age 25
Weight 220
No previous experience with juice
Lifting since 16

Looking to lose fat and gain lean muscle.
Have been researching for awhile and have a reliable source just wondering if oral or injectable.winny would.be best and how long should I take test e

 

[dylangemelli]

So ill be running my first cyle of test e and either injectable or oral winny ( which would you reccomend ) .. and a pct reccomendation

Age 25
Weight 220
No previous experience with juice
Lifting since 16

Looking to lose fat and gain lean muscle.
Have been researching for awhile and have a reliable source just wondering if oral or injectable.winny would.be best and how long should I take test e

what's your height and body fat man?

 

[grbnike]

5'11 14%bf but not 100% sure about bf.

 

[dylangemelli]

5'11 14%bf but not 100% sure about bf.

1-12 test e 500 mg/wk
7-12 oral winnie - 50 mg day
1-12 n2guard
5-12 hcgenerate or hcg

you should have an AI on hand, either aromasin or arimidex... aromasin would be 12.5mg eod...

you also need to have forged joint repair and possibly skeletal balm on hand for the joint pain that can occur with winnie...

pct (2 weeks after last pin)
clomid - 25/12.5/12.5/12.5
unleashed/post cycle combo
forma stanzol
need2slin

 

[liffalot]

5'11 14%bf but not 100% sure about bf.

^^ what Dylan said.

Also, I would try to get down to 12% or below (and be 100% sure) because then you can REALLY see the Winny harden you up and burn all that spare tire off.

Everyone will tell you - winny works best the lower BF% you are. So try to drop it as low as you can either before you start, or early on in your cycle.

 

[dylangemelli]

^^ what Dylan said.

Also, I would try to get down to 12% or below (and be 100% sure) because then you can REALLY see the Winny harden you up and burn all that spare tire off.

Everyone will tell you - winny works best the lower BF% you are. So try to drop it as low as you can either before you start, or early on in your cycle.

absolutely agree, get that body fat down as much as possible... the less body fat, the more etched out you will be!

 

[grbnike]

Would running test from 1-8
And oral winny at pryamid from 4-8 with colmid be any good ?

 

[liffalot]

Would running test from 1-8
And oral winny at pryamid from 4-8 with colmid be any good ?

That could work, but the lengths are a little off.....

Test works best 10+ weeks and 4 weeks of winny seems a little short to me.

If you went 1-10 tests and 4-10 winny or even 5-10 winny I think that would be better

 

[dylangemelli]

the only way your going to run test for only 8 weeks is running test prop... otherwise thats not enough time for it... you need to run the longer esters 10-12 weeks but I would never go under 12 myself... i also would run winny at 5 weeks at the minimum, 6 being the optimal length... the cycle i laid out for you would be optimal for max results... unless you wanted to switch to prop and then you could run test for 8 weeks and then run winny weeks 3-8...

 

[Keith1]

For a first cycle stick with the basics just use test at 500mg a week for about 12 weeks. You will gain from it and any sides you get will be from the test, no guessing involved.