Cycle

[Chins]

I am going to do a dbol winny cycle, I was going to do winny alone but I have deebs on hand and have heard of some good gains at a low dosage. I also was going to do some clen prior to cycle so I wanted to know what you guys thought, this is my first cylce. Try not to comment on how shitty you think the cycle is but what I can expect to gain. I want to keep it real light for first one.

5'8
185
BF 10-13%
lifting for 6 yrs

dbol-20mg for 3 weeks
winstrol zambon 50 mg eod for weeks 3-9
Clomid will be used post and liver protectants throughout.

I want to use clens for two weeks prior with very low carb diet to loose some fat.

Fire away

 

[trapzilla]

Have you even exhausted your natural limitations yet if not which I bet you have'nt why do you think you want to take gear. If I were you I'd sit back and watch the boards for awhile and you'll pick up mad info and then and only then would I take the plunge. That's just my opinion thou.

Traps

 

[wartime100]

I would stack a little test in there as well. Your gains will be determined by your diet and training. Running 2 17aa at the same time is never a good idea but at those doses I don't think it will be a problem.

 

[Chins]

Traps- Yes I have def. exhausted myself. As you can see I am not taking huge amounts of gear. I have put on 40 lbs naturally since HS, I am now roughly 185 (not all muscle of course). Any advice on the cycle? Also I belonged to another site fore while but just wanted info from elite members.

Wartime- I am only crossing two 17's for one week and at low dosages. I was going to do some sust or prop but I really don't want to do test yet.

Anyone out there have experiences?

 

[HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex]

I would definitely toss some sort of an injectible in there as well,even if it is something mild like equipoise.Outside of that,it doesn't look too bad.Keep your protein intake very high and you should see some nice gains in LBM/strength.

 

[Chins]

injects

Well if you didn't know the winny (zambon) will be injected eod at 50mg.

Huck-What about the clens, I was going to do some before hand just to start me out a little leaner, think it would be better before hand rather then later

Thanks

 

[guards]

NOBODY can tell you what you are going to gain....depends on WAY too many variables. Training, diet, rest, supps, etc.

 

[HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex]

Remember,even though you are injecting it,it is still metabolized the same as taken orally(being that its c-17aa),all it's doing through injection is avoiding the very first pass.It will still be ran through the liver multiple times and metabolized via that route just like the oral(due to the alkylation).

As far as the clen,sure,that will be okay to use it prior to,it won't interfere with the effectiveness of your anabolics whatsoever.

 

[Chins]

Huck-Thanks for all your posts on this issue. I am going to have blood done before-middle and after cycle to make sure I have that in check. I still think with low dosage I should be ok but everyone reacts different so hopefully doc can help out there.

Guards- I will make sure I keep all that in check so it doesn't render gains. Thanks

Anyone else have opinions.

Thanks all

 

[TTORO]

Yup i agree with the adding some test. You will do fine with minimal test. Listen to huck he gives good advice. and post a pic bro with a name like that it sounds like ur 50% bf.