Cycle with no AAS!!!!

[BigDog97]

Here is the cycle I came up with using hgh, slin, IGF-1 and creatine. I decided to post up my weekly routine so you can see exactly what I am doing. A major concern was using creatine in the morning 2 hours before I inject slin? Will this casue any negative side effects(hypoglycemia)? The creatine I am using is NO-XPLODE by BSN. I am also taking another serving of NO-XPLODE in conjunction with my slin injections in order to force the creatine into the muscles. I will start using slin at 2i.u. a day and work my way up to 10 possibly(no higher). Just Disregard the 5i.u. of slin posted below because it can be anywhere from 5-10.


Monday- 8:00 Wake Up, Creatine, Protein Shake
8:30 Workout
10:00 slin 5i.u., IGF 20mcg(body part trained), MRP(High carbs 50g), Creatine
11:00 Breakfast, HGH 3i.u.
1:00 Protein Shake
3:00 Protein Shake
6:00 Lunch
9:00 Dinner, IGF 20mcg
12:00 Protein Shake (Muscle Milk)


Tuesday- 10:00 Wake Up, Creatine, Protein Shake
11:00 Breakfast, IGF 20mcg
12:00 Rehab
1:00 Train Light, IGF 20 mcg
2:00 Lunch, HGH 3i.u.
4:00 Protein Shake
7:00 Dinner
10:00 Protein Shake
12:00 Protein Shake (Muscle Milk)


Wednesday- 8:00 Wake Up, Creatine, Protein Shake
8:30 Workout
10:00 slin 5i.u., IGF 20 mcg, MRP, Creatine
11:00 Breakfast, HGH 3i.u.
1:00 Protein Shake
3:00 Protein Drink
5:00 Lunch
9:00 Dinner, IGF 20 mcg
12:00 Protein Shake (Muscle Milk)


Thursday- 10:00 Wake Up, Creatine, Protein Shake
11:00 Breakfast
1:00 Train Light, IGF 20 mcg
2:00 Lunch, HGH 3i.u
4:00 Protein Shake
7:00 Dinner
10:00 Protein Shake
12:00 Protein Shake (Muscle Milk)


Friday- 5:00 Wake Up, Creatine, Protein Shake
5:45 Workout
9:00 slin 5i.u., IGF 20 mcg, MRP, Creatine
10:00 Breakfast, HGH 3i.u.
2:00 Lunch, IGF 20 mcg
5:00 Protein Shake
7:00 Dinner

On the Weekends I am not going to use slin or hgh. I will continue to inject IGF switching the muscles every weekend. I will run IGF and slin for four weeks and then take a break but I will continue to run the hgh.
Any Advice is greatly appreciated.
Thanks BIGDOG

 

[oatsandgrains]

Im not going to give you any advice on how to do this cycle as I have in no way the amount of knowledge in slin to be telling you how to do it. If you've done your homework and you're careful a straight anabolic cycle with no adrogens could have good benefits in the ways of lean muscle gains.
Good luck! I hope someone on here helps you out!
J

 

[BigDog97]

Yeah this is my first time using slin but I have done alot of research and have learned with proper usuage the use of slin is not very dangerous as long as you know what too look for in regards to side effects after administiring it. My main concern is to make sure the creatine I am taking wont cause any problems.Thanks for your post.
BIGDOG

 

[DIVISION]

On the Weekends I am not going to use slin or hgh. I will continue to inject IGF switching the muscles every weekend. I will run IGF and slin for four weeks and then take a break but I will continue to run the hgh.
Any Advice is greatly appreciated.
Thanks BIGDOG

Normally, I would say all good, do your thugthang etc. etc.....

However, when you fuck with Insulin you are really playing with your life, LITERALLY. I hope you've thought this out and understand the ramifications.

Get all the advice and help you can before you do anything.

Good luck, peace & chickengreasssssssse.



DIV

 

[Advisor_x]

Stick with the IGF bro......Insulin need to be monitored very closely................

 

[BigDog97]

Even if I kept my insulin injections to 5i.u. post workout for just three days a week (MWF)at no longer than 4 weeks you still think the sides are too risky. Dont want to fuck around and kill myself, just trying to kep the doses moderate to get some quality gains.
BIGDOG

 

[DIVISION]

Even if I kept my insulin injections to 5i.u. post workout for just three days a week (MWF)at no longer than 4 weeks you still think the sides are too risky. Dont want to fuck around and kill myself, just trying to kep the doses moderate to get some quality gains.
BIGDOG

The problem with your premise is that from what some pros have said, you HAVE to go ALL OUT w/ the Insulin/GH stack in order to get the most benefit from it......and that entails putting yourself at risk. It's one of those things where you need to do it right or not do it at all. This is why I don't think the risk vs reward adds up.......

I don't recommend you do this, bro.

I don't want the the bigdog to degrade back in to a Lil' Pup....


DIV

 

[BigDog97]

Thanks for the advice division. Still debating about trying it or not. I havent heard anything positive yet so I am swaying towards not trying it right now. I just wanted to get the full effect of HGH and IGF since slin is very important in synergizing the effects of these compunds and allows you to obtain the most dramatic results when usuing this type of cycle. From what I have heard the addition of slin to any cycle(HGH, steroids,etc) is quite remarkable.
BIGDOG

 

[DIVISION]

Thanks for the advice division. Still debating about trying it or not. I havent heard anything positive yet so I am swaying towards not trying it right now. I just wanted to get the full effect of HGH and IGF since slin is very important in synergizing the effects of these compunds and allows you to obtain the most dramatic results when usuing this type of cycle. From what I have heard the addition of slin to any cycle(HGH, steroids,etc) is quite remarkable.
BIGDOG

If you're going to try it, I'd recommend strictly limiting it to the Insulin/GH stack and seeing what effects those have. Then based on that you could throw in whatever AAS you are comfortable with to add that synergistic effect. It's all up in the air with the variables being: your genetics, overall health, training and diet.


DIV

 

[BigDog97]

I am not planing on throwng in any AAS into the mix. Just running hgh,IGF,slin and creatine. Cant risk using AAS. Also wanted to know if T3 would be a good addition to keep fat levels down.
BIGDOG

 

[DIVISION]

I am not planing on throwng in any AAS into the mix. Just running hgh,IGF,slin and creatine. Cant risk using AAS. Also wanted to know if T3 would be a good addition to keep fat levels down.
BIGDOG

So long as your proteins and carbs are at the adequate levels, you can't go wrong with T3. However, if you aren't getting the proper nutrition, the T3 will strip away your gains which will nullify using the GH/Insulin in the first place.

Feel me?



DIV

 

[BigDog97]

Thanks for the advice division. Do you know if t3 is detectable on a drug tests?
BIGDOG

 

[DIVISION]

Thanks for the advice division. Do you know if t3 is detectable on a drug tests?
BIGDOG

Almost everything is detectable on drug tests.......so the answer is yes.

All the doc would have to do is a thyroid assay and he'd see your T3 and T4 levels and see that they are higher than normal which would then lead him to want to run more tests.

Everything is detectable....it's a matter of avoiding the drug tests altogether and if you can't do that, then it's not worth it, especially if your NCAA scholarship is riding on this.


DIV

 

[jt-funk]

After watching someone use insulin and take too much I can only give one piece of advice. If you do use it, make sure that you are around someone that knows you are using it for at least the first week you are doing it. If you have ever seen someone with extremely low blood sugar from insulin use its like they are a drunk child. You can't reason with them or explain whats going on. You can use insulin and do it effectively but here are my suggestions. Use a consistant dose, have someone there to monitor you until you know what to expect, don't experiment with dosages. Good luck

 

[BigDog97]

Thanks for the info jt-funk.
Starting out at 2i.u. and increasing by 1i.u. everyday I use it for a maximum of 10i.u. a day. Might even stay as low as 5i.u. because all I want to do is enhance the effects of my hgh and IGF-1. Would using 5i.u. be enough to see results?
Slin doesnt seem that dangerous as long as you don't over due the dosing. If I follow this protocol I dont see why I would have any problems. I will also carry gluclose tablets on me just in case.
BIGDOG

 

[Dieselgoku23]

I dont mess with Insulin.......... that stuff can actually kill you!!! is like playing russian rullet!!, I mean you want to gain few lean pounds?? shit just diet hit some , Tren, Test prop, Winny and end with Var you can get awesome lean gains, instead of messing with Insulin tha can actually kill you

 

[BigDog97]

Everybody says that but if you not an idiot and follow directions and listen to your body there should be no problems. If it just killed everyone you would hear of people dying of slin all over the news and eventually it would not be able to be obtained OTC.
Here are some interesting articles from basskiller about slin.

DISPELLING A FEW MYTHS

There is a commonly held perception that you Must take in 10grams of carbs per I.U. of insulin, some radicals say 5 grams... well, they're both wrong.
I got curious about this when I discovered that my insulin dependant diabetic friend didn't even keep track of what she ate post injection. She would feel hypoglycemic after a shot and take a Glucose Tablet.
A glucose tablet is only 5 grams of glucose (carbs)! So I started to think, "Hmmm, maybe everyone is off point on this?"
After conducting a few experiments on myself, I found that you can go considerably lower in carbs than people previously believed.
Now it doesn't make sense to go low in carbs, because that defies the purpose of using the insulin in the first place, but it does free us from having to use so much that there might be some "spill over" in carbs that cant be utilized. So it really makes us able to have more freedom in carbs choices and amounts.
The "risk" in insulin use is not as risky as people believe. Any person with an ounce of sense can see the warning signs of a problem coming, and remedy the situation.

POTENTIAL PROBLEMS

Insulin is relatively safe. If you don't take in any carbs after using it, your body will give you PLENTY of warning! You'll feel dizzy, tired, achy... hypoglycemic. What is happening is your body has no glycogen to use as fuel. Your muscles re depleted from working out, and often times you've tapped your liver for any remaining glycogen. The insulin does, searching for glycogen to use, takes the rest from your liver, and in the absence of carbs coming in to make more, it heads for the brain.
Your brain uses glucose as its primary fuel source (a little fat, too.) That's why you get dizzy and light headed, the same with during a ketogenic diet... low glucose equals light headedness.
So if you forget about the carbs, you'll get a warning from your body, and you can get your ass in gear and get some carbs in you.
If you get to the point where you're nauseated, just drink some sugary beverage and get some carbs in you quickly. You're still a long long way from any major danger, but don't mess around.

I think everyone just hears how slin can kill you and just completly runs away from it without researching it. Alot of things can kill you out their and I am trying to relate anything to slin but the fact of the matter is when used correctly at moderate doses slin is no more dangerous then anything else. If you look at log you will see that I am only takig slin three days a week at 5-10i.u. max postworkout. Now whats the danger with that?
TOPDOG