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Cycle w/o supplements?
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Mac173
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I know there are some guys who eat only whole foods.
I guess it depends on how your appetite is.
Me personally wouldn't even be able to come close to the amount of cals and protein that I need w/out shakes.
I've been drinking mostly shakes this cycle beside 1lb. steak and some milk due to some stressfull personal issues, but I have to say that I can't tell a differance.
As long as you're getting in the cals and protein, to me that's all that matters.
I guess it depends on how your appetite is.
Me personally wouldn't even be able to come close to the amount of cals and protein that I need w/out shakes.
I've been drinking mostly shakes this cycle beside 1lb. steak and some milk due to some stressfull personal issues, but I have to say that I can't tell a differance.
As long as you're getting in the cals and protein, to me that's all that matters.
It's impossible to determine which is BETTER because there are thousands of variables beyond those two things. Supplements, SUPPLEMENT -- they help. If something is an advantage how can it be worse?
LftHndPwrHouse
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Honestly think about it. All the protein powders and weight gainers were not always around. How do you think they did it????? INMO nothing beats wholesome foods. And if you cutting I have an organic butcher by me...The meat is so good and fresh no chemicals..i swear im harder leaner when eating that then anything else.
I am very old schooled. I still believe in trying to get all of my protein or as much as possible from real food. All of my cycles are done by eating as much food as possible and as few shakes as possible. I only have 2 shakes ED max(one in the AM on the bus going to NYC..and the other right after i work out/before bed) and other then that I eat like 6 or more times ED(50g of protein per meal) outside of the shakes. People say it costs so much more eating real food. I dont find it to be so. Instead of buying so much powder just buy chicken.
I am very old schooled. I still believe in trying to get all of my protein or as much as possible from real food. All of my cycles are done by eating as much food as possible and as few shakes as possible. I only have 2 shakes ED max(one in the AM on the bus going to NYC..and the other right after i work out/before bed) and other then that I eat like 6 or more times ED(50g of protein per meal) outside of the shakes. People say it costs so much more eating real food. I dont find it to be so. Instead of buying so much powder just buy chicken.
LftHndPwrHouse
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Oh ya my last show...I bet the last 4 months of training I ate only food..maybe one post workout shake
Mac173
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There's alot of things that you can add to shakes to get the cals instead of using weight gainer and it would probably be easier to get down.gyle said:
Some of the things that I add:
ANPB
milk
oats
eggs
bananas
Adding a mixture of these ingredients will improve the flavor and would probably easier to handle than 8 large scoops of powder or whatever the hell some of those things are.
I can get down a 800-1000 cal shake pretty easy using the right ingredients.
gyle said:
This is a good point. I never understood the concept of a thick heavy shake that stuffs you if it leaves you too full to eat. FOOD is most important. Now, if you could drink something light that was calorie dense, THAT would make sense on a bulking plan. That's why the tropical orange BIG BLAST is so perfect. You can drink a couple of them a day and it's like having a Snapple -- very light and won't leave you full. It's also a good idea to eat calorie dense food such as nuts and olives. A cup of each isn't much food yet they each contain a few hundred calories.
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