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anthony518

anthony518

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Starting week 11 of a 400mg eq/weekly 500mg enan/weekly cycle. I hate it. Injecting 2ml twice a week. My right knee is all swollen from the injection I think. My legs hurt 6 days out of the week. I have lost 14 lbs. I am 198 and strated at 212. Unable to test body fat, but pretty sure thats all i have lost is fat. I just started my clen this week and plan on running it though out pct. My results aren't that great, I usually see better results off of sust and d-bol. My bench went up slightly, from 300 to 340. But now I am not that strong at all. Just repping with 255, sets like 10, 7, 6, 6. Before I was doing that with 230. My shoulders are a lot broader, look a little nmore tone. I have been getting 150-200+ grams of protein everyday. Staying hydrated, not drinking alcohol at all. Eating fish, chicken, tuna, eggs, turkey. Training hard as hell. Miss week 4, was sick, and miss 1/2 of week 8. Injury.

My question is what happened. I finally got a good source. Finally got the right advice. Eq/Enan cycle, hcg,clomid,nolva pct. Finally had my diet in check. Took a lot, imo, of chemicals 900mgs a week. Not seeing the results i thought i would. I have never taken either one of these chemicals. Training hard. What the fuck. I still have 3.5 weeks left, but I don't think I will ever cut again, with as. I will only use them to bulk. I spent a lot of extra money to get the eq, And I would of had better results with out it. Then at least i would get some bloat and look bigger. I am taking BD products and I know they are good. Just wanting to know you guys experiences with eq and results, or what could have happened.
 
you thought that you might not feel like you are gaining the same because you aren't as aggressive as you were on the d-bol and you my miss the sense of well-being it gives you

just asking but are having anxiety?
 
Im not a big fan of eq. I dont think I'll ever use it as a base of my cycle again. The only use eq in minimal amounts now for appetite increases. You also have to remember that you're cutting. If you want to gain, stop eating chicken, fish, and egg whites and get on the beef and pasta.
 
well, i think your gains are actually pretty decent.
I have been getting 150-200+ grams of protein you ask me.
personally i think that should be higher
 
400 is a waste. Your body can only use so much. the days that I get more then 200 grams i usually have the runs. My diet is fine.
 
anthony518 said:
400 grams a day is bad advice. Thats not what i am looking for.
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What are you looking for?? People have asked you questions to try and help you out, and all you want to do is whine and complain, and tell people they dont know what they're talking about. If you dont want people to help you then go bitch on some other forum and stop wasting peoples time.
 
fuck you outlaw, i am not whining. I am simply saying that 400 grams of protein is not going to help me. Your body can not use 400 grams of protein a day. There is no way. I am open to advice, but good advice. I am only saying that I didn't get what I expected. I just asked if anyone else had issues with eq or doing a cut cycle. I am not asking people to tell me to take in 400 grams of protein. Thats a joke.
 
anthony518 said:
fuck you outlaw, i am not whining. I am simply saying that 400 grams of protein is not going to help me. Your body can not use 400 grams of protein a day. There is no way. I am open to advice, but good advice. I am only saying that I didn't get what I expected. I just asked if anyone else had issues with eq or doing a cut cycle. I am not asking people to tell me to take in 400 grams of protein. Thats a joke.
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This is not just about your dissagreement with how much protein your body can handle. I tried to help you out but aparently you didnt want to listen to what I had to say. Bigmouth tried to help you out, but you didnt even take the time to reply to his post. The ONLY thing you've done on this thread is whine about how your gains suck and how you're never gonna cut with AAS again.

When someone tries to help you, dont be so quick to dissmiss their information as if you already know all there is to know about everything. Instead of calling peoples advice bad or dumb, you should ask the poster to post up some evidence to support his claim. Instead you just sit on your little peddestool and dismiss everything like nobody knows what they're talking about. In the end, you're the one comming off looking like the dumbass.
 
Outtlaw said:
Im not a big fan of eq. I dont think I'll ever use it as a base of my cycle again. The only use eq in minimal amounts now for appetite increases. You also have to remember that you're cutting. If you want to gain, stop eating chicken, fish, and egg whites and get on the beef and pasta.
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true
 
Actually bro, 2 grams of protein per lb of bodyweight is NOT too much--I'm not basing this on what I've read-I've been doing this shit for 14 years and my BEST gains come when I eat more protein-I'm 291 lbs and I have competed more than once--I am close friends with a few pros and they will tell you the same thing---MORE PROTEIN=MORE MUSCLE---when you ask for advice here, you don't have to listen to all of it but we're here to help each other so be appreciative of people going out of their way to help you--
 
anthony518 said:
ok. bdavester used another post as his support information. read this dog.

http://www.aafp.org/afp/20010301/913.html

It says 1.8 grams per kg. 1kg-2.2lbs 200lbs guy 164 grams per day. No more showed any increase in muscle mass.
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For your information, it's about 1.5-2grams of protein per LBS if you'r trying to gain muscle mass. AAS increases protein synthesis big time so go figure ...
Take or leave what you want, but stop crying about the fact that your gains suck. Your not eating enough protein PERIOD, and stop making an ass of yourself.
I'm done with this post.
 
anthony518 said:
ok. bdavester used another post as his support information. read this dog.

http://www.aafp.org/afp/20010301/913.html

It says 1.8 grams per kg. 1kg-2.2lbs 200lbs guy 164 grams per day. No more showed any increase in muscle mass.
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You're still caught up on this protein thing :rolleyes: .

I dont know what your problem is in the 1st place. You said yourself you were on a CUTTING CYCLE!!! Did you even bother to read what the fuck you wrote in your own post??
anthony518 said:
I have lost 14 lbs. I am 198 and strated at 212. Unable to test body fat, but pretty sure thats all i have lost is fat.

My bench went up slightly, from 300 to 340. But now I am not that strong at all. Just repping with 255, sets like 10, 7, 6, 6. Before I was doing that with 230.

My shoulders are a lot broader, look a little nmore tone.

Eating fish, chicken, tuna, eggs, turkey. Training hard as hell.
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Dude, Im normally a pretty even tempered guy, but your continued lack of intelligence on this thread is really starting to piss me off. Look at what you wrote and tell us what the hell is wrong with your results for a CUTTING CYCLE?? Did you think you were gonna blow up into Ronnie Coleman overnight off of a 400mg/wk eq and 500mg/wk test cycle??!! If that's what you were expecting then get real. You should be happy you've gotten such noticible results to begin with. You just need to stop right now, and do some more research before you come back and try to post more information on this thread.

And if you want to find out about your protein delimma, then read up on the effects of increased protein synthesis from AAS use. There you'll find your answers.
 
bdavester said:
For your information, it's about 1.5-2grams of protein per LBS if you'r trying to gain muscle mass. AAS increases protein synthesis big time so go figure ...
Take or leave what you want, but stop crying about the fact that your gains suck. Your not eating enough protein PERIOD, and stop making an ass of yourself.
I'm done with this post.
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Damn, you beat me to the protein synthesis thing :D
 
IMO for what its worth EQ and TestE are bad choices for cutting.

Regarding, protein synthesis 1g/lb is insufficient, true you may experience results but you should strive for 1.5-2g/lb and you will see a lot more benefits and it wont effect your waistline at all
 
andyjb said:
IMO for what its worth EQ and TestE are bad choices for cutting.

Regarding, protein synthesis 1g/lb is insufficient, true you may experience results but you should strive for 1.5-2g/lb and you will see a lot more benefits and it wont effect your waistline at all
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Actually, Tes E and EQ are Great for cutting
 
I guess is an individual opinion, but EQ increases my appetite and thats not what you (or I) want from a cutter. Test E with the water retention is not what i want out of a cutter. still on the whole it doesnt really matter what you take, its what happens in the kitchen that counts.

Each to there own!

Anyway K+ to you anyway
 
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