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Cycle Q&A

brew

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Hey everyone, I've been lurking for a little while trying to figure out how to do my first cycle. And after reading I have decided on a 10-12 week cycle of cyp @ 400mg/week. I will also be running H.CG @ 250mg 2x a week while on. For PC.T I would like to avoid the standard nolva & clomid because the mood issues, so I was thinking some Sustain alpha and post cycle tabs. My questions are...

1. Would front loading @ 600mg for the first two weeks be effective in "kickstarting"? Worth it?

2. Do you think my P.CT plan will work?

3. In case of gyno do you guys recomend a-dex or nolva? I know one is an AI and one is a SERM. Which one should I have on hand for this compound?

4. Anything I'm missing?

p.s. I'm 5'10" 180lbs 31yrs old.
 
1. Would front loading @ 600mg for the first two weeks be effective in "kickstarting"? Worth it? -yes i always frontload just double the mg of test your useing.

Do you think my P.CT plan will work?-no you need nolva/clomid the otc crap wont work

3. In case of gyno do you guys recomend a-dex or nolva? I know one is an AI and one is a SERM. Which one should I have on hand for this compound?-i would keep nolva on hand for gyno and adex for bloat if you start bloating start the adex at .25mg and for gyno use nolva at 20mgs until it clears up.

go and reserch pct and make it solid as it is a vital part of running aas.
 
1) i dont like the idea for front loading in your case. u have no idea how u will react to test. 600mg maybe beyond your threshold for bad sides. i would actually recommend starting at 250mg ew but it is your call...

2) i like the hcg throughout though it may not be necessary especially if u drop down to 250mg ew. as far as mood issues imo it has more to do with hormonal changes during pct than so much to do with nolva & clomid though it does seem like clomid exacerbates this a bit more. i have never had any mood issues with nolva. i have never used sustain but many swear by it.

3) both. some disagree (especially those that have gotten gyno) and say u should always run an AI throughout. estrogen is important for males for many biological processes as well as helping in the bulking up process. u cant wait until it is too late though. at first sign of sensitivity or any other kind of "funny business" (like the technical jargon? lol) run the adex at .5mg ed and the nolva 20mg ed for a week straight and that should put that in check. at this point if that happened u will know u r especially sensitive and i would run a maintenance dose of .5mg eod for the rest of the cycle.

4) make sure everything is in hand b4 starting.

Brew said:
Hey everyone, I've been lurking for a little while trying to figure out how to do my first cycle. And after reading I have decided on a 10-12 week cycle of cyp @ 400mg/week. I will also be running H.CG @ 250mg 2x a week while on. For PC.T I would like to avoid the standard nolva & clomid because the mood issues, so I was thinking some Sustain alpha and post cycle tabs. My questions are...

1. Would front loading @ 600mg for the first two weeks be effective in "kickstarting"? Worth it?

2. Do you think my P.CT plan will work?

3. In case of gyno do you guys recomend a-dex or nolva? I know one is an AI and one is a SERM. Which one should I have on hand for this compound?

4. Anything I'm missing?

p.s. I'm 5'10" 180lbs 31yrs old.
 
Thanks guys! Thats why I like this site, good info. I really like the theory of front loading as waiting four weeks for the "kick" seems excessive. But, 8 you nailed what I was worried about. I'd hate to go overboard on my first outing and end up dealing with sides instead of enjoying the ride. If all goes well I will probaly frontload next time. Do you really think 250mg/week would be an effective dose? Or is it more of an introduction to check personal reactions?

Sounds like I should run the standard P.CT. I guess it would be good to set it as my baseline.

I will pick up both the adex and the nolva as recomeded. I like the idea of waiting on the adex just to see if I'm estro sensitive, but being ready to jump on it.

One more question. What do you think about the length? I figured if everything was going great I would strech it to 12 weeks but if I was having issues with sides I would cut it at 10.

Thanks again for the input.
 
Brew said:
Thanks guys! Thats why I like this site, good info. I really like the theory of front loading as waiting four weeks for the "kick" seems excessive. But, 8 you nailed what I was worried about. I'd hate to go overboard on my first outing and end up dealing with sides instead of enjoying the ride. If all goes well I will probaly frontload next time. Do you really think 250mg/week would be an effective dose? Or is it more of an introduction to check personal reactions?

both. if u cant grow on 250mg the first time around then u know something is up with your diet and/or training that needs to be addressed b4 another cycle, or the gear is fake :(

Sounds like I should run the standard P.CT. I guess it would be good to set it as my baseline.

I will pick up both the adex and the nolva as recomeded. I like the idea of waiting on the adex just to see if I'm estro sensitive, but being ready to jump on it.

One more question. What do you think about the length? I figured if everything was going great I would strech it to 12 weeks but if I was having issues with sides I would cut it at 10. 10 is plenty imo. will 12 weeks do much harm, probably not. i like to go by the "stay low until u cant grow" policy which applies to dosage and length.

Thanks again for the input.


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can someone please give me a CLEN/CYTOMEL cycle...for like 4 weeks..I see so many diff answers....and is it realy worth it to add the T4 or will clen work good enough...Im looking for the best results for like 4 weeks...then never use again...thank you guys !
 
fightu35 said:
can someone please give me a CLEN/CYTOMEL cycle...for like 4 weeks..I see so many diff answers....and is it realy worth it to add the T4 or will clen work good enough...Im looking for the best results for like 4 weeks...then never use again...thank you guys !

PM me or start a new thread.
 
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