Cycle over-view.

[ULTRAMEGAOK]

weeks 1-12 Test E 250 mg 2x/wk

weeks 2-12 HCG 250 IU 2x/wk

weeks 15-18 nolva 20 mg/ed

weeks 15-18 clomid 50mg/ed

weeks 13-18 aromasin 12.5 mg/ed

 

[LiftHeavy078]

weeks 1-12 Test E 250 mg 2x/wk

weeks 2-12 HCG 250 IU 2x/wk

weeks 15-18 nolva 20 mg/ed

weeks 15-18 clomid 50mg/ed

weeks 13-18 aromasin 12.5 mg/ed

You should start the Aromasin around week 3 or 4, and you can drop the Clomid.

 

[ULTRAMEGAOK]

You should start the Aromasin around week 3 or 4, and you can drop the Clomid.

What's the reasoning behind that? Not being a smart ass, just curious.

 

[LiftHeavy078]

What's the reasoning behind that? Not being a smart ass, just curious.

You will start getting high estrogen levels around week 3 when on a Test E cycle. With this, comes water bloat (the severity of it depends on the person), high blood pressure, and other estrogenic related side effects. Even if you feel fine on the outside, your body will be going through hell on the inside. Taking Aromasin (my favorite anti-e...very good on your lipids, doesn't effect the liver, and no estrogen rebound), will reduce these side effects and keep your body healthy. 12.5mg ED is a perfect dose.

Adding in the Clomid would be overkill, especially on a Test only cycle. Just the Nolva would be more than enough, especially since you are taking HCG throughout your cycle. Nolva and Clomid are pretty harsh on your body. I never understood who came up with the idea of combining both, but that is no longer done because it was proven, well...stupid. There are actually better things you can take for PCT along with the Nolva to really get your natty test going, such as Primordial Performances Testosterone Recovery Stack, or Needto's Unleashed. Nolva and Clomid were the only things around a long time ago. This is a new age and there are much more efficient products you can take such as these that work so much better.

 

[Boxingheels]

Ultra it looks good but you need a little help with pct, shoot me a pm if you want.

 

[ULTRAMEGAOK]

Thank you for the quick replies and advice Liftheavy and boxing.

 

[ULTRAMEGAOK]

Would I just continue the aromasin throughout weeks 3-12? Or continue past?

 

[LiftHeavy078]

Would I just continue the aromasin throughout weeks 3-12? Or continue past?

You can run the Aromasin from week 3 and up until PCT, or throughout PCT, it is up to you. The great thing about Aromasin is it is the only anti-e that will run together with Nolva without reducing its effectiveness. So if you want to run Aromasin throughout your PCT along with the Nolva, it will only benefit you.

 

[needtogetaas]

You will start getting high estrogen levels around week 3 when on a Test E cycle. With this, comes water bloat (the severity of it depends on the person), high blood pressure, and other estrogenic related side effects. Even if you feel fine on the outside, your body will be going through hell on the inside. Taking Aromasin (my favorite anti-e...very good on your lipids, doesn't effect the liver, and no estrogen rebound), will reduce these side effects and keep your body healthy. 12.5mg ED is a perfect dose.

Adding in the Clomid would be overkill, especially on a Test only cycle. Just the Nolva would be more than enough, especially since you are taking HCG throughout your cycle. Nolva and Clomid are pretty harsh on your body. I never understood who came up with the idea of combining both, but that is no longer done because it was proven, well...stupid. There are actually better things you can take for PCT along with the Nolva to really get your natty test going, such as Primordial Performances Testosterone Recovery Stack, or Needto's Unleashed. Nolva and Clomid were the only things around a long time ago. This is a new age and there are much more efficient products you can take such as these that work so much better.

Yes and its also great for lowering IGF level. Also using a ai through out the cycle will lower gains unless its made in a way not to do so. Best not to even use one for use forma-stanzol

Looking at the pct its way to much and then adding more ai to it is going to be even more of a wast with even more sides.

 

[BodyByTren]

You will start getting high estrogen levels around week 3 when on a Test E cycle. With this, comes water bloat (the severity of it depends on the person), high blood pressure, and other estrogenic related side effects. Even if you feel fine on the outside, your body will be going through hell on the inside. Taking Aromasin (my favorite anti-e...very good on your lipids, doesn't effect the liver, and no estrogen rebound), will reduce these side effects and keep your body healthy. 12.5mg ED is a perfect dose.

Adding in the Clomid would be overkill, especially on a Test only cycle. Just the Nolva would be more than enough, especially since you are taking HCG throughout your cycle. Nolva and Clomid are pretty harsh on your body. I never understood who came up with the idea of combining both, but that is no longer done because it was proven, well...stupid. There are actually better things you can take for PCT along with the Nolva to really get your natty test going, such as Primordial Performances Testosterone Recovery Stack, or Needto's Unleashed. Nolva and Clomid were the only things around a long time ago. This is a new age and there are much more efficient products you can take such as these that work so much better.

Great write-up very useful and accurate reply! K to you!