cycle ? karma for help

[DaddyX]

ok, heres the situation. my brothers has all his gear. he is currently taking accutane but will be ending in about 5 weeks. he wants to start asap. Is it ok to start test/eq now even though accutane is kinda harsh or should he wait ? he aslo wants to run some dbol wth it but will wait til weeks 8-14, would that work also ? any suggestions are welcome, thanks

 

[Judo Tom]

I would just wait.. it most likely would be nothing too brutal but i would just play it safe.. this way if things get complicated down the road he is better off.. for instance he might not see the gains he wants and might want to extend the cycle or who knows what..

i would try to get him to just switch up his diet and training for the next month. start keeping a log or something to start preparing him but not the cycle..


then i would start the test /eq and run the dbol however he wants.. beginning to kick start is what most people normally do.

how long has been on accutane.. has he ever had his liver values checked? he might know if they are high now or normal now.. and he might know how long it will take for his liver values to improve once he comes off the accutane...

good luck

 

[DaddyX]

I would just wait.. it most likely would be nothing too brutal but i would just play it safe.. this way if things get complicated down the road he is better off.. for instance he might not see the gains he wants and might want to extend the cycle or who knows what..

i would try to get him to just switch up his diet and training for the next month. start keeping a log or something to start preparing him but not the cycle..


then i would start the test /eq and run the dbol however he wants.. beginning to kick start is what most people normally do.

how long has been on accutane.. has he ever had his liver values checked? he might know if they are high now or normal now.. and he might know how long it will take for his liver values to improve once he comes off the accutane...

good luck

hey bro thanks for the response. He has been on accutane for almost 4 months now with 5 weeks left total. he got his liver value checked after one month and then after 2 and both times his values were fine. anymore thoughts ?????

 

[Judo Tom]

yep..

honestly why risk it.. i mean im guessing he is dying to jump on and see results but try to convince him to wait til he is off and gets that last blood work done.. then he will also have work done right before he goes on to know where his liver values should return..

try telling him that he should start his cycle closer to spring so he can be jacked in the summer i dont know but he would be better off waiting..

on the other hand its a good thing the liver values were low.. you might want to post the results here if you can so we can see exactly what they were and then people will be able to tell you even more..

if he starts now (or even later) make sure he is on some good liver protectants..

good luck

 

[trinidad]

What I would do is get some R-ALA from the AF Store for the liver and still wait at least one month after being done with the accutane to start the test/eq and save the dbol for a future cycle. No sense in running dbol with accutane since both can be toxic to the liver. Also, if taking accutane for acne, let him know that acne is a possible side effect of steroids. Patients, bro!

 

[DaddyX]

What I would do is get some R-ALA from the AF Store for the liver and still wait at least one month after being done with the accutane to start the test/eq and save the dbol for a future cycle. No sense in running dbol with accutane since both can be toxic to the liver. Also, if taking accutane for acne, let him know that acne is a possible side effect of steroids. Patients, bro!

thanks for the reply

 

[rjl296]

i thought accutane messed up your lipids nicely.
did he get those checked ??
if they were fine, id go ahead

 

[DaddyX]

i thought accutane messed up your lipids nicely.
did he get those checked ??
if they were fine, id go ahead

yeah bro all that was good. Thats a good point you brought up though. He's gonna be running some liquidex and i know that effects lipids.....anyone know how bad accutane is on that ? thanks rjl296

 

[slat1]

If he got the Accutane from a doctor I would wait at least one month and see if the DR would run blood work etc. If everything is in check at that point I would go ahead with everything else. Accutane can do some bad sh*t to your body!

 

[Mr. Black]

I have ran accutane numerous times with & without AAS. Get your bro to load up on some tylers detox, r-ALA, policosanol, garlic, niacin, red rice extract & maybe some lecithin. Thats my accutane/AAS cholesterol/liver stack and has worked pretty decent at keeping everyhting in check.

 

[jonny jacked]

I have ran accutane numerous times with & without AAS. Get your bro to load up on some tylers detox, r-ALA, policosanol, garlic, niacin, red rice extract & maybe some lecithin. Thats my accutane/AAS cholesterol/liver stack and has worked pretty decent at keeping everyhting in check.

what do you mean you have run accutane numerous times? the majority of people need one cycle of it. in severe cases two. I have never heard of anyone needing more than that. maybe i am just misreading what you wrote.
daddy X. I would have him wait to see if the doc is going to want him to run another cycle of the tane as it is sometimes required. If your brother knows this will not occur, and his last blood work checked out fine, I don't see the harm in starting the cycle in a week or two

 

[DaddyX]

what do you mean you have run accutane numerous times? the majority of people need one cycle of it. in severe cases two. I have never heard of anyone needing more than that. maybe i am just misreading what you wrote.
daddy X. I would have him wait to see if the doc is going to want him to run another cycle of the tane as it is sometimes required. If your brother knows this will not occur, and his last blood work checked out fine, I don't see the harm in starting the cycle in a week or two

hey thanks for the responses guys i aprreciate it. jonny jacked - hey man i will give you karma tommorow....i have given too much out today, peace

 

[Mr. Black]

what do you mean you have run accutane numerous times? the majority of people need one cycle of it. in severe cases two. I have never heard of anyone needing more than that. maybe i am just misreading what you wrote. .

No you did not misread.In my teens I ran 2 indivdual cycles of accutane for non-AAS related acne. Then after I ran my first AAS cycle I found out how susceptible I was to roid acne and required another course of accutane to clear that up. Following that tane cycle I had some left over and ran a minimal amount to to keep the acne under control. Currently I am running a full blown accutane cycle with my AAS cycle, hence my above list of numerous cholesterol/liver supps.

 

[tiger88]

some docs make u come back a month after u done

so u end jan 1st was your last day they may ask u come in feb 1st


have him find out

 

[DaddyX]

some docs make u come back a month after u done

so u end jan 1st was your last day they may ask u come in feb 1st


have him find out

i will have him look into that, thanks bro

 

[mrjrock19]

dude, "Better safe than sorry" some strong words... i dont think it will kill him to wait a couple months..i read somewhere on here how accutane is harsh on the liver, i definitely would NOT run dbol with it, if he does decide to go ahead with it. good luck