cycle help

[wannabebig1]

ok i am planning on doing a cycle of eq and propinate i have

20ml qv eq (200mg )
10ml qv prop (100mg) i can get more if needed
clomid 36 tabs (50mg)
nolvadex 24 tabs(20mg)
clenbuterol 100 tabs

what would be the best way to run this , also do i need hcg or should i just stick with what i have.... I am 5'10 176lbs at 10% bf right now and i have not taken steriods in the past 2 years, my last cycle was deca ,dbol and sustanon.. my goal is to put on like 15 lbs of solid muscle if possible any help would be appreciated..

 

[wannabebig1]

anyone ?

 

[Outtlaw]

Draw up an idea of how you think you would like to run it and people will be better able to help you out.

 

[mrjrock19]

if you are going to do prop all the way through you are going to need more... bc you will need to do it 50mg/ed... but he eq i would run at 400mg/wk for weeks 1-10...then 10 days after last shot start pct with clomid for 3 weeks... keep the nolv on hand incase of ichy nips....

 

[wannabebig1]

i was gonna run it for the entire cycle eod at 100mg . but im not sure if that is to much or to little i have never taken propinate ... also do i need hcg , should i get liquidex ( does that stuff even do anything )maybe i should take 50 mg eod .....im not sure.....

 

[CPA22]

doing prop for 10 weeks straight is going to be very expensive ( about 35cc's of QV prop assuming it is 100mgs/ml and taken EOD) so that means you need 4 bottles. You dont seem to know alot about it either. Stick to something more simple and less frequent.

 

[wannabebig1]

i get propinate really cheap , and i dont wanna get bloated from taking sustanon again...

 

[CPA22]

i get propinate really cheap , and i dont wanna get bloated from taking sustanon again...

do u think u can handle prop for 10 weeks? Have you every tried it and experienced the pain??..its not pleasant for some to say the least..

Why not an anti estrogen for the bloat?

 

[CPA22]

also, maybe the bloat was from the deca and dbol? Its hard to judge what drug is doing what when you are taking a few. Some use Sustanon with great success without the bloat

 

[mrjrock19]

if you can get some cyp cheap i would go with the cyp at 500mg/wk and try taking nolv at 10mg/ed to help fight bloat and gyno...
cpa22 is right...prop is a painful injection

 

[wannabebig1]

no pain , no gain. ive tried cyponate , sustanon and enthanate , all are great for bulking cycles... but i get bloated from all ....... is the pain that much , i mean come on i broken bones before , i have probably 50 stitches and i get cut on a weekly basis and i have never been in that much pain...... Would it be worth it to do an eq only cycle .....

 

[CPA22]

no pain , no gain. ive tried cyponate , sustanon and enthanate , all are great for bulking cycles... but i get bloated from all ....... is the pain that much , i mean come on i broken bones before , i have probably 50 stitches and i get cut on a weekly basis and i have never been in that much pain...... Would it be worth it to do an eq only cycle .....

If it was a once a week shot of prop, i would say go ahead...but sticking yourself 3-4x a week with prop isnt fun trust me. If you feel you can handle it then have a ball...

Eq cycles can be good. However, some people try eq and do not see any results...even at high dosages. Doing eq would be safer and less time consuming but do not expect to see magical results from it, epecially 15lbs like you are looking for..

 

[wannabebig1]

if i was to do propinate and eq for 10 weeks should i use liquidex or should i just run nolvadex 10mg a day.....also i have a bottle of 6oxo is this stuff strong enough to use with a cycle , maybe it will help out with bloat?

 

[CPA22]

if i was to do propinate and eq for 10 weeks should i use liquidex or should i just run nolvadex 10mg a day.....also i have a bottle of 6oxo is this stuff strong enough to use with a cycle , maybe it will help out with bloat?

I would stay away from the liquidex and keep the nolva on hand just in case. From this cycle you should not develop any type of gyno unless you of course had problems in the past ..

I am not to familiar with the 60x0 product. From what i remember, it is an anti e product. Maybe start a thread about it in the supplement board for better answers..

 

[wannabebig1]

ok thanks for the repies

 

[wannabebig1]

would it be a better idea to do the eq for 10 weeks and the propinate for 12 weeks so the half lifes end at the same time and then start clomid and nolva,,,, also i am getting hcg and i have been researching it and i keep getting different shit like 2 times a week for the entire cycle , and the last week of the cycle .......anyone.....