Cycle for Strength and Xplosiveness only

[GenSci26]

My friend wants to do a cycle for power, strength and explosiveness only. What do you think?
1-4 halo 30mg ED, 1-6 var 60mg ED, 1-10 Test prop 100 E3D, 1-16 GH 5iu ED

Should he add T3?

 

[tempest2003]

im thinking for some reason this is going to be for track and field am i correct? if so, fuck halo, too much water, the rest is good tho, maybe some eq instead

 

[GenSci26]

Just a few stats. He's 6ft 215lbs, low bf (definitely single digit). Has done one AAS cycle and also 5 months of GH only.

 

[pharmguy]

drop the GH, what the hell ya want it for? It will make you tired, doesn't add strength, in fact, GH is the most overated shit out there. It burns fat and thats it.

 

[manny78]

Do you know if he'll be tested ?

 

[GenSci26]

Yes he will be tested but the cycle would be run in the off-season so the 2 months detection time for halo would be ok I think (almost pushing it IMO).
The GH is for collagen synthesis purpose more than anything else, to avoid injury and make tendons stronger that is. I think that's a smart (and expensive...) move (so is the Var but anyways...)
Right on Tempest2003... Guessed right, but about the halo, I don't think it causes water retention, does it?

 

[40butpumpin]

you know, aside from gh being a waste and inappropriate for this (especially for someone of a relatively young age), power (which = strength + speed), is more a result of proper training, than what gear you use. from a previous post of yours, GenSci26, i know you know how to train for explosive power. but wrt to gear, i would focus on what can help you to recover adequately. with that in mind, dbol used in low doses and mini-cycles, sustanon (i wouldn't be without this, but then i'm 43), and primo, if you can afford it. if you train correctly, with proper warm-up, your tendons should be fine w/o gh.

 

[lartinos]

tren

 

[juve]

\ if so, fuck halo, too much water

halo doesn't add any water
winny is good for 'explosiveness' in running/track, but I am unsure which sports we are talking about here, addition of MSM, chondrotin and glucosamine as well as 300mg deca EW could do really good. But what is the purpose of the cycle again, what's he competing in?
Also T3 might make him lethargic, but then again depends on dose and purpose in cycle (ie protein synthesis or cutting)

 

[GenSci26]

Thanks all for the advises. It's for track, not a bulker or cutter cycle, just looking for strength.

 

[DaddyX]

im thinking for some reason this is going to be for track and field am i correct? if so, fuck halo, too much water, the rest is good tho, maybe some eq instead

LOL, halo doesnt make you retain water bro......anyways that cycle is not very good. prop ed or eod at the minumum. other than that i think he needs to train for those movements than rely on gear.

 

[GenSci26]

Well of course if his training isn't in check, AAS won't help... But that's the same for a bodybuilder, isn't it? No one solely rely on the juice. That would be totally ineffective...
So ok prop at least EOD. Thanks

 

[Nico Cujo]

Well...I olympic lift and used omna and thai pinks for a meet and was the strongest and fastest that I had ever been. I set 6 pr's. But speed is developed from doing the movement, not from drugs.

 

[40butpumpin]

Well...I olympic lift and used omna and thai pinks for a meet and was the strongest and fastest that I had ever been. I set 6 pr's. But speed is developed from doing the movement, not from drugs.

good info, thanks for adding this.

 

[juve]

Speed and explosiveness is actually developed through heavy compound movements, although ergogenic substances could amplify the effect to a considerable degree. The key is to stimulate the CNS and neural networks to peak potential - very heavy resistance and intense endurance training accomplish this.
Just as an example there was a study where heavy lifters were matched ina sprint against sprinters - 10 meter sprint (yes very short). Heavy lifters won this short sprint because their sympathetic and parasympathetic neural systems were developed for sort of 'explosive' power which helps them to lift/move very heavy weight for short periods of time. Sprinters on the other hand relied on gradual accumulation of power and acceleration as well as gradual mobilization of neural impulses.
Another example ben Johnson - je could squat around 600lbs - it's no wonder he was the champ.

 

[40butpumpin]

Speed and explosiveness is actually developed through heavy compound movements, ...

huh? everything i've ever read states that explosiveness is developed with lighter weight and faster movements. heavy weight = slow speed = non explosive strength.

 

[DaddyX]

Speed and explosiveness is actually developed through heavy compound movements

no it's not

 

[GenSci26]

Speed and explosiveness is actually developed through heavy compound movements...

Not necessarily, speed and explosiveness = power but when approaching a 1RM, power decreases. So you'd need to train with moderate weights and maximum speed to achieve the most power output.

Also I think you meant Olympic lifters (not heavy lifters...) in the research you quoted.

The thing with Ben Johnson, or with Adam Archuletta for example is that not only he could squat 500+lbs (a lot of powerlifters do) but most importantly he was able to do it in a short time (great power output).

 

[Aston]

Personally FOR ME this has always worked wonders and is/was best stack ive done when i used to use "real" gear, tren 150mg EOD/winny150mg ED oral/prop 100mg EOD or cyp400mg week(for you i think prop would be best of the two) 400mg of quality test was ALWAYS PLENTY of test for me. Everyone is diff though i guess.
This always gave massive strength and power increases with no bloat and even had increased endurance. Use a-dex for even less bloat.