Cycle for max size.

[Muscle Juice]

What's up guys, been a long time lurker on this site. Noticed that a lot of the BS that was going on here has calmed down quite a bit, so I've decided to post up and hopefully get some positive feedback.

Going to try to keep this short. I am looking to add a great deal of size with my next cycle, and hoping to get some advice and tweeks from some of you. I am 6'4 with my weight sitting around 265. My goal is to hit 300.

My cycle is based around Test, Deca, and EQ. Dosages below..

Test E - 1500mg/week
EQ - 800mg/week
Deca - 600mg/week

Also will be running Growth and Slin, as well as IGF-1 and other peps during the cycle.

Basically just looking for any advice on what you would add to this (besides food) to maximize the cycle. I've have used every drug there is, and am very open to ideas.

Thanks everyone.

 

[Elvia1023]

What is your approx. body fat %? Your cycle looks good so can't really change anything with that... that's the simple part. I don't know if those doses are higher than you have done before (?). I would recommend starting lower and upping the dose when needed. I assume this is gonna be a long cycle? Do you blast and cruise or come off? I would run that for a good 16 weeks or longer and upping the dose when needed.

Now the part that can really maximize results would be the way you put together the hgh, slin and peptides. What doses do you have in mind for the hgh and slin? What peptides do you have?

 

[Muscle Juice]

I would estimate my body fat is around 9-10% at the moment.

I plan to run the cycle for around 20 weeks, basically until I hit 300.

I blast and cruise. Cruise on 500mg Test E weekly with 100mg of Deca added to that.

Currently running 5iu of GH right now, and will bump that to 10iu when the cycle starts. I will be running 12iu of slin preworkout. When I am not on the slin, I will be running 100mcg daily of IGF-1 Des. Besides that, just 200mcg GHRP-2 and 100mcg Mod-GRF 3-4 times daily.

I think that is it.

 

[TonyCl]

Those deca cycles are slow responding so why not add some anadrol 50 or d Bol early in the cycle? I always prefer running anadrol in my mass cycles. The pumps and size I get early on is God like..

 

[Alphacore200]

I would estimate my body fat is around 9-10% at the moment.

I plan to run the cycle for around 20 weeks, basically until I hit 300.

I blast and cruise. Cruise on 500mg Test E weekly with 100mg of Deca added to that.

Currently running 5iu of GH right now, and will bump that to 10iu when the cycle starts. I will be running 12iu of slin preworkout. When I am not on the slin, I will be running 100mcg daily of IGF-1 Des. Besides that, just 200mcg GHRP-2 and 100mcg Mod-GRF 3-4 times daily.

I think that is it.

I would ditch the ghrp-2 for ipam
Also the igf might be a little redundant seeing you are using insulin

400mcg Ipam upon waking & 5 iu of Humalog

Assuming u are running Humalog I would dose 10iu pre workout & 10iu post w/ 400mcg ipam

Take ur mod GRF before bed

Also u might want to invest in some metformin for insulin sensitivity

Take t4 in the middle of the night on an empty stomach

 

[Fishak]

Wow 265 at 9-10%....u a monsta

 

[jtmdell]

Impressive stats bro, what's your calorie intake going to look like?

 

[Muscle Juice]

I'd love to add dbol or drol to the cycle, but orals kill my appetite.. as well as Tren.

I've been wanting to try mega dosing Ipam, but running 1000-1500mcg daily of that gets expensive. I am going to be alternating the IGF-1 and slin.. 4 weeks on slin, then 4 weeks on IGF-1 and repeat.. and yes I will be using Humulog. I will most likely start using that multiple times per day later on in the cylce, but to start just 1 time based on training. I am also taking 100mcg of T4 daily. Never really heard about Metformin, will have to look into that.

Calories will start around 6,000 and then will adjust from there. Nothing fancy with the diet.. just lots of chicken, fish, eggs, oats, and rice. Then a couple of shakes on top of that.

Thanks for the replies so far guys!

 

[Elvia1023]

I would estimate my body fat is around 9-10% at the moment.

I plan to run the cycle for around 20 weeks, basically until I hit 300.

I blast and cruise. Cruise on 500mg Test E weekly with 100mg of Deca added to that.

Currently running 5iu of GH right now, and will bump that to 10iu when the cycle starts. I will be running 12iu of slin preworkout. When I am not on the slin, I will be running 100mcg daily of IGF-1 Des. Besides that, just 200mcg GHRP-2 and 100mcg Mod-GRF 3-4 times daily.

I think that is it.

Good stuff. Firstly the slin won't make the DES redundant. Although I would personally rotate them every few weeks during your cycle. Breaks from both are a good thing (especially the slin). In your off periods of slin I would take GDA's to improve your slin sensitivity. Metformin is highly effective but can come with some nasty side effects. You will be shocked what the likes of Gymnema Sylvestre, Alpha Lipioc acid, Cinnamon and Chromium can do.

If you plan to run DES at 100mcg daily I would recommend dosing it during your workout. I usually go for simple approaches but DES is much more effective during training. That's because of it's ability to fit into lactic acid altered IGF-1 receptor sites. The DES I would inject after a few sets (intense ones) in the trained body part. I would use the DES in a body part you want to improve most. Say that is arms then perform 1 big workout per week with a few short but very intense pump workouts with the DES added in.

The 200mcg GHRP-2 and 100mcg Mod-GRF 3-4 times daily sounds great. If you are going to use HGH at 10IU I would recommend dosing it at 5IU twice daily. I would dose this with your first and last pep injections. Firstly inj your mod and ghrp-2 then 10 mins later your 5IU HGH and that will ride the natural pulse and your hgh will become much more effective.

Slin I would keep to pre workout and use a intra shake. I recommend EAA's and HBCD's. Although EAA's and Dextrose will do the job too. Have this shake in a lot of water and sip on it 10 mins before your workout to the end of it.

I know you really want to go for this so if you decide to up the slin I would recommend more injs in the day as opposed to larger ones. Keep the pre workout the same but I would use smaller amounts at other times. An example could be 6IU before breakfast and 6IU before dinner with your 12IU pre workout dose already in place.

 

[Muscle Juice]

Most everything I do is by the book protocol wise.

I am going to have to do a bit of research on Metformin. One of the go to supps I use is Animal M-Stak which is along the lines of a GDA. If you have a better product that you would recomend, I am all ears.

I pin the Des about 10-15 minutes into my workout once warm-up sets are done. Usually pin upper chest or delts.

GH and peptide dosing is basically along the lines of what you said. I split the GH up 2 times daily. First in the morning pre-breakfast, second in the PM a few hours before bed. Each time is about 20 minutes after peptides are administered.

Slin is taken about 10 minutes after my pre workout meal. About 45 minutes later I take my pre-workout mixed with 50g of Dextrose, and then sip on BCAA's mixed with 2 scoops of Carbion+, then after that is 50g dextrose with 50g whey.

So yeah, everything is basically by the book. Guess I am just looking for some hidden secrets some might have.

 

[synthazeus]

You sound like an IFBB pro man

 

[Alphacore200]

Personally I use the glucose disposal agent off of true nutrition

 

[Muscle Juice]

You sound like an IFBB pro man

Maybe one day. I won my first NPC show a little bit ago, but that was more because of lack of competition in my opinion. Since then I have been trying to pack on as much mass as possible. Gains don't come as much as they once did. Well, keepable gains anyways.

 

[Muscle Juice]

Personally I use the glucose disposal agent off of true nutrition

Thanks bro, I will check that out

 

[Muscle Juice]

I ordered the GDA's from True Nutrition. Going to start using that tomorrow. Plan to take 1 serving with breakfast, and then 1 serving with my post-workout shake.

Does anyone here have expierence with IV GH injections? I am thinking about going this route post workout.

 

[Alphacore200]

No haven't done IV GH, only IV Slin contest day