Cycle for June '05...

[sandman_007]

i've been debating whether i am going to include deca for this first cycle....and i've decided that i will. Remember, i'm already a pretty big..err......natural guy so i think i can handle a bit. Last night, i got 120x7 with dumbell presses....

Let me also add that the needles really scare the sh** out of me. something just makes me quiver when thinking about it! But i gotta do what i gotta do...

i'll have to keep nolva and dostinex on hand for gyno though during the cycle if i complete this fairly complex first cycle. i lowered the dbol to only 4 weeks for my 'jump start' and decided to still have deca, but definetely at the lower end on the dosage.

Week Testosterone Deca-Durabolin Dianabol Nolvadex
1 500 mg/week 200 mg/week 30 mg/day
2 500 mg/week 200 mg/week 30 mg/day
3 500 mg/week 200 mg/week 30 mg/day
4 500 mg/week 200 mg/week 30 mg/day
5 500 mg/week 200 mg/week
6 500 mg/week 200 mg/week
7 500 mg/week 200 mg/week
8 500 mg/week 200 mg/week
9 500 mg/week 200 mg/week
10 500 mg/week 200 mg/week
11 1000 iu/hcg 3000 iu/hcg total M W F 20mg nolvadex daily
12 20mg nolvadex daily 1000 iu/hcg M W F 3000 total
13 20mg nolvadex daiy 1000 iu/hcg M W F(3000 total)
14 20mg nolvadex daily
15 20mg nolvadex daily
16 20mg nolvadex daily

 

[Bruce]

bro deca needs to be at 300mg or not worth it, unless it is strictly for joint lubing. everything looks fine, but honestly u should run the gear for 12 weeks. u will see such better results. i would adjust to 12 weeks and then 300 or even 400 of deca

 

[sandman_007]

bro deca needs to be at 300mg or not worth it, unless it is strictly for joint lubing. everything looks fine, but honestly u should run the gear for 12 weeks. u will see such better results. i would adjust to 12 weeks and then 300 or even 400 of deca

before i was advised against not taking deca at all. I was reading sev. articles how for beginners 200mg may be best of deca. 300mg would be fine if i knew if i was prone to "deca gyno" or not but then again i will have the dostinex in case that occurs

i have mixed feelings about cycling....mostly positive but as i said the needles are scaring me whenever i think about it.....lol!! (i'm sure i am not the only person to think this before their first cycle)

 

[krishna]

I agree with Bruce, although I've never done deca, I've done enough research and heard enough opinions to think that you'd be wasting your time with 200. Why not just do the test for your first cycle? That's what I'd do.

 

[sandman_007]

I agree with Bruce, although I've never done deca, I've done enough research and heard enough opinions to think that you'd be wasting your time with 200. Why not just do the test for your first cycle? That's what I'd do.

that's sorta what i wanted to do initially, but i read several articles that seemed to suggest that deca can be added to a first cycle w/ possible added results- most suggested between 200-400mg/wk and at least one i read said that if it's your first cycle to go with the lower end; and it's not like i have puny mass either right now.

i'll need to make my mind up on this soon. l8r!

 

[krishna]

500 of test is plenty for a first cycle no matter how big you are. Plus you can see how your body reacts to test alone so you can get familiar with how your body reacts to the sides from it. If you stack on your first cycle with deca, you won't know whether gyno you're getting is from estrogen or progesterone. Nolva will only work with test gyno.

 

[Raffaz]

500 of test is plenty for a first cycle no matter how big you are. Plus you can see how your body reacts to test alone so you can get familiar with how your body reacts to the sides from it. If you stack on your first cycle with deca, you won't know whether gyno you're getting is from estrogen or progesterone. Nolva will only work with test gyno.

I agree with this, but if you have already decided that your gonna do the deca, at least you have ya dostinex and nolva handy to combat the gyno from all angles. You still wont know what ya prone to though for future cycles.

Mick

 

[Neo22]

500 of test is plenty for a first cycle no matter how big you are. Plus you can see how your body reacts to test alone so you can get familiar with how your body reacts to the sides from it. If you stack on your first cycle with deca, you won't know whether gyno you're getting is from estrogen or progesterone. Nolva will only work with test gyno.

so if he takes nolva and dostinex while on it wont matter. His first cycle is going to be his best. If he only decides to do this Just ONCE let him stack.

 

[LVTitan]

heavy frickin dbol too for a beginner cycle..
drop ur dbol to 25mg day, especially with test and deca, you're already to going to blow the fuck up bro !!

 

[krishna]

so if he takes nolva and dostinex while on it wont matter. His first cycle is going to be his best. If he only decides to do this Just ONCE let him stack.

Right take dostinex too if you're gonna do both. I was just saying that he won't know where his gyno symptoms are coming from if he does both. I must of missed the part that this was going to be his only cycle. Then again, that's what a lot of people say until they decide to do it again.