Cycle for a buddy

[Yeti48]

My roomate is set on doing a cycle and I know a little about the stuff but not enough so I figured I'd go where people know a lot more than me and ask questions...here! I did a few papers on steroids in my first year of college so I researched it some but that was two years ago and don't remember a whole lot about it. If I remember correctly a good starter is test enanthate so I wrote up a cycle for him with that. Tell me what you think and please critique anything you see that may be wrong or could use something else.

Weeks 1-10:

500mg test e per week
1 quarter tablet of Arimidex every other day (0.25mg)
1 tablet of clomid every other day (50mg)
320mg of Saw Palmetto Extract per day


Week 11:

300mg test e per week
1 quarter tablet of Fincar per day (1.25mg)
1 quarter tablet of Arimidex every other day (0.25mg)
1 tablet of clomid every other day (50mg)
320mg of Saw Palmetto Extract per day


Week 12:

200mg test e per week
1 quarter tablet of Arimidex every other day (0.25mg)
1 tablet of clomid every day (50mg)
320mg of standardized Saw Palmetto Extract per day


Week 13:

.25mg of Arimidex every other day
100mg of clomid every day


Week 14:

1 quarter tablet of Arimidex every 3rd day (0.25mg)
50mg of clomid every day

 

[ironcheif1984]

My roomate is set on doing a cycle and I know a little about the stuff but not enough so I figured I'd go where people know a lot more than me and ask questions...here! I did a few papers on steroids in my first year of college so I researched it some but that was two years ago and don't remember a whole lot about it. If I remember correctly a good starter is test enanthate so I wrote up a cycle for him with that. Tell me what you think and please critique anything you see that may be wrong or could use something else.

Weeks 1-10:

500mg test e per week
1 quarter tablet of Arimidex every other day (0.25mg)
1 tablet of clomid every other day (50mg)
320mg of Saw Palmetto Extract per day


Week 11:

300mg test e per week
1 quarter tablet of Fincar per day (1.25mg)
1 quarter tablet of Arimidex every other day (0.25mg)
1 tablet of clomid every other day (50mg)
320mg of Saw Palmetto Extract per day


Week 12:

200mg test e per week
1 quarter tablet of Arimidex every other day (0.25mg)
1 tablet of clomid every day (50mg)
320mg of standardized Saw Palmetto Extract per day


Week 13:

.25mg of Arimidex every other day
100mg of clomid every day


Week 14:

1 quarter tablet of Arimidex every 3rd day (0.25mg)
50mg of clomid every day

So how many cycles has YOUR buddy had. How long has he been training. How is your buddys diet and why dont YOUR buddy come and find out for HIMSELF. Sorry to sound like a dick if i did. But tell him he needs to do his own research.

 

[eddymerckx]

Saw Palmetto is any an anti-androgen--

No need to taper, b/c the half life of the enth is long enough it has a built-in taper

NO clomid during the cycle--does nothing good

 

[Yeti48]

It will be his first cycle. I'm researching it because I find it interesting as I have always been interested in chemistry.
I'm thinking of taking it down to a 10 week cycle and adding dbol for the first 6 weeks. Would that help gains early on better?

 

[dabuffguy]

yeah dbol will give you immediate results, but after 3 weeks, the tes twill be in full effect on noticable increase in size and strenght, so i reccomend running dbol at max for 4 weeks if you are just going to kick start it. I only do 3 weeks myself and it's good for me.

no clomid during cycle.

just run it 500mg for 10 weeks, and then a good PCT.

 

[eddymerckx]

It will be his first cycle. I'm researching it because I find it interesting as I have always been interested in chemistry.
I'm thinking of taking it down to a 10 week cycle and adding dbol for the first 6 weeks. Would that help gains early on better?

check out some of the e-books---a great way to create a solid foundation of knowledge

https://www.elitefitness.com/amember/

 

[Yeti48]

I'll let him know about the books but doubt he'll buy any of them. If they were a little cheaper I'd probably buy one but I don't know if I'll do any cycles anytime soon so I'll hold off until I decide to try one.

 

[ironcheif1984]

I'll let him know about the books but doubt he'll buy any of them. If they were a little cheaper I'd probably buy one but I don't know if I'll do any cycles anytime soon so I'll hold off until I decide to try one.

Until then stick around and get as much knowledge that you can. Everyone here will help you just dont be a stupid asshole or ask for sources or anything like that read the rules on everything and you will enjoy your stay bro.

 

[Yeti48]

Alright I've changed it to this. Hows it sound?

Weeks 1-4:
50mg Dbol every day

Weeks 1-10:

500mg test e per week
1 quarter tablet of Arimidex every other day (0.25mg)


Week 11:

.25mg of Arimidex every other day
100mg of clomid every day


Week 12:

1 quarter tablet of Arimidex every 3rd day (0.25mg)
50mg of clomid every day


Weeks 13-14:

50mg of clomid every day

 

[dabuffguy]

Alright I've changed it to this. Hows it sound?

Weeks 1-4:
50mg Dbol every day

Weeks 1-10:

500mg test e per week
1 quarter tablet of Arimidex every other day (0.25mg)


Week 11:

.25mg of Arimidex every other day
100mg of clomid every day


Week 12:

1 quarter tablet of Arimidex every 3rd day (0.25mg)
50mg of clomid every day


Weeks 13-14:

50mg of clomid every day

drop the dbol dose. it's too high for a first timer. 25-30 mg is plenty.

 

[ironcheif1984]

drop the dbol dose. it's too high for a first timer. 25-30 mg is plenty.

I agree with you buffguy. Do you think he should run the dbol along with the test being a first timer. What if he has a reaction to something he wont know if its the test or the dbol.

 

[ryno9000]

drop the dbol dose. it's too high for a first timer. 25-30 mg is plenty.

Agreed. Your "friend" is going to blow up, and not in a pleasant way. Personally (and 95% of this board will disagree with me) I feel Dbol is a grabage steroid and overused simply because you see instant results that carry instant side effects, which once it is discontinued you will instantly lose the positives and be left to keep only the negatives. However (as so many others are) if "he" is set on using it then so be it, it is very popular (not to be mistaken with good).

As stated, no clomid during cycle, only as part of PCT. I find it a great PCT drug, but not everyone agrees there either.

 

[Yeti48]

I plan on sticking around for a while. I like learning about this stuff. He wants me to do a cycle with him but I am undecided on whether I am ready so thats still up in the air. I've only done cycles of 1ad and m1t so far. Haven't went to the dark side just yet
I'll definitely drop the dosage to 25mg of dbol and I'll keep doing research until he starts to decide whether or not to completely drop the dbol. Thanks for the help guys, I'd be pretty lost without it.

 

[dabuffguy]

I agree with you buffguy. Do you think he should run the dbol along with the test being a first timer. What if he has a reaction to something he wont know if its the test or the dbol.

Since the dbol half life is 4 hours or so, it would be easy to distinguish whether it was test or dbol. Upon injecting, within a short period of time, he would have reaction symptoms. Within 20 minutes of taking dbol, reaction symptoms would occur.

I used 20mg ed dbol for my first cycle and saw great results on that dose. I now use 30

 

[702daswoll1]

Only use arimidex when necessary. It will ruin his cycle if he does not have enough androgens flowing.

 

[Yeti48]

What do you mean "only when necessary?"

 

[enacer420nj]

What do you mean "only when necessary?"

symptoms like gyno

 

[Trendsetter21]

If its his first time cut the dosages in half and use it for 2 cycles. If he doesn't make great gains from 25mg Dbol and 250mg test for his first cycle ever then he isn't eating/training correctly.

 

[Yeti48]

He is going with 500mg/week. He has 250mg amps, when should he take the shots? Both on monday? One monday, one thursday?

 

[eddymerckx]

Only use arimidex when necessary. It will ruin his cycle if he does not have enough androgens flowing.

+1

 

[Yeti48]

Only use arimidex when necessary. It will ruin his cycle if he does not have enough androgens flowing.

I'll make sure to tell him this. But also to go ahead and get enough, can't be to careful.

 

[Yeti48]

Anyone have any insight on when to take the shots? Both on monday or spread them out say half monday half thursday?

 

[dabuffguy]

Anyone have any insight on when to take the shots? Both on monday or spread them out say half monday half thursday?

every 4 days. doesn't matter which day he starts. Keeping a schedule is good though.

 

[Yeti48]

I'll take note of that. Thanks!