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Cycle critque please.

Lestat

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This is based on feedback on the last thread I posted.

10 weeks.

Week 1- 10
125mg Test Enan E3D
200mg EQ E3D
35mg Paper Var ED

Proviron 25mg ED
Nolva 20mg ED

Post cycle:
Nolva
Avena Sativa
maca
tribulus
Zinc


Question, would it be beneficial to add dbol at 25mg ED for weeks 1-3?

Any other ancillaries needed?
 
Your ancillaries look great. In my experience I haven't felt the effects of papervar for 2 weeks or so, and the EQ I belive takes 10 or so days to be active in your system, so IMO, I would add b/w 20-30mg Dbol ED. Three weeks sounds solid for a kickstart till the EQ and Var take over.
 
I know you and your friend are worried about gyno....

But I thought proviron has a very strong affinity for the aromatase enzyme. You may get by with this as your anti-e. If not, then perhaps the proviron and low does adex with nolva on hand?

There's no need for the dbol IMO you have plenty in there already.
 
honestly, not enough gear for my liking but may work well for you.

i'd take enanthate at 500mg e3d.
eq at 400mg e3d.
dbols at 30-40mg a day for first 6 weeks.

nolva 20mg/proviron 50mg.
 
No need for that much nolvadex at all. Drop to either 20mg eod (10mg ed) or even 10mg eod. It will be enough. Add Hcg post cycle and you've got a winner. I like low doses too, but you may want to up the test enth and or eq by 25 percent or so. Just my 2 cents.
 
satchboogie said:
honestly, not enough gear for my liking but may work well for you.

i'd take enanthate at 500mg e3d.
eq at 400mg e3d.
dbols at 30-40mg a day for first 6 weeks.

nolva 20mg/proviron 50mg.

thats what im talking about :D tho do what works for you. i would only add nolvs when needed
 
see you gotta understand...

i ran conservative cycles before like 250mg-500mg susta for 8 weeks.

or 300mg primo/300mg deca for 12 weeks.

good results both times but dramatic??? not until i dipped into the 1g+ range.
 
Thanks for the feedback guys.

This is designed to be a second cycle for a relative newbie. Hence the lower doses.
 
Lestat said:
Thanks for the feedback guys.

This is designed to be a second cycle for a relative newbie. Hence the lower doses.

I think your cycle is fine. I wouldn't bother with the dbol. Var/EQ/ Enan will be plenty. Again, I would want to try to get by on the provion and avoid using the nolva unless it becomes obvious taht you need it.
 
DaddyX said:


thats what im talking about :D tho do what works for you. i would only add nolvs when needed


There you go---someone finally said it add nova only when its needed at the dosage you're running proviron should meet your needs!!!!


RADAR
 
Ok here is what I am thinking:


cut it down to an 8 weeker.

weeks 1-3 dbol 25mg/day
Weeks 1-8 Test Enan 125mg E3D = 291.66mg week
Weeks 1-8 EQ 200mg E3D = 466.66mg week
Weeks 4-10 Anavar (Paper) 40mg ED

winds up being a totall of 1000mg of gear a week.

2nd cycle for a relative newbie.


Comments?
 
looks good but i would run a min of 10 weeks to give the eq time to really do its job!!!!!


RADAR
 
Eq = 10 weeks min....12 weeks preferable.
 
Lestat said:
Ok here is what I am thinking:


cut it down to an 8 weeker.

weeks 1-3 dbol 25mg/day
Weeks 1-8 Test Enan 125mg E3D = 291.66mg week
Weeks 1-8 EQ 200mg E3D = 466.66mg week
Weeks 4-10 Anavar (Paper) 40mg ED

winds up being a totall of 1000mg of gear a week.

2nd cycle for a relative newbie.


Comments?

Didn't you have problems with gyno when running test at something like 300mg EW? I think dbol and test will be much riskier in this regard.
 
Yeah.. my "friend" had gyno problems with 300-400mg a week...

no real lumps.. but some extreme puffyness and itching.
 
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