Cycle Critique please

[harbinator]

wk 1-4 - 50mg dbol/ed
wk 1-12 - 750mg/wk Test E mon/thur
wk 1-12 - 600mg/wk Tren E mon/thur

PCT will be Arimidex, I have Nolv and Clomid on hand but think just the Arim will be fine? Might get some HCG in there too.

 

[dabuffguy]

From your sig you look like a big guy.

What is your cycle history?

 

[harbinator]

I've only done dbol/test cycles in the past, from all this reading I really want to try some Tren.

 

[dabuffguy]

I've only done dbol/test cycles in the past, from all this reading I really want to try some Tren.

Did you dose 500mg last time with great gains?

If so, I would reccomend starting out with 500 again. If it's not doing it for you, you can always just up the dosage. I hav eno experience with tren, but from what I do know 600 is a solid dose, maybe want to try 400 or 500 before going 600. IDK about tren though, just something to consider.

My philosophy is less= better always, if you are getting the results you want.

 

[GUARDIAN]

this is your first run with tren?

 

[harbinator]

I did 50 dbol/500 test last time and didn't get that great of gains, I ate like a horse and put on about 20lb but noticed alot of it was fat. I was training a good solid 5 days a week too.

This time I plan to cut the calories a bit and do lots of cardio to make sure I don't lose any muscle and hopefully put quite a bit on while losing some BF%. I want to get down to 12%.

Yes, my first run with Tren, my training partner started this same cycle about 5 weeks ago (minus the dbol) and he is loving it.

 

[Powerbuilder333]

If this is your first run with tren, then start at 200 - 300mg EW and go from there.

 

[GUARDIAN]

I did 50 dbol/500 test last time and didn't get that great of gains, I ate like a horse and put on about 20lb but noticed alot of it was fat. I was training a good solid 5 days a week too.

This time I plan to cut the calories a bit and do lots of cardio to make sure I don't lose any muscle and hopefully put quite a bit on while losing some BF%. I want to get down to 12%.

Yes, my first run with Tren, my training partner started this same cycle about 5 weeks ago (minus the dbol) and he is loving it.

600mg is quite a bit (as is the 12 weeks) the first time around plus u r wanting to use tren/e. i suggest backing the dose down and going with a 6-8 weeker of tren/a, the shorter ester, so in case u cant handle the sides you can stop & recover quickly

 

[harbinator]

I would love to test p/tren a I just don't know if I could handle being a human pincushion If I were to lower the dose it's still going to take 4 weeks to kick in, should I lower it and wait 4 weeks to judge and then up it or what do you guys recommend?

I know that 600 is alot and the 750 test is higher than average too, I just want to do a cycle where I really feel like a beast, my last few have been moderate and disappointing. I was just going by the rule of keeping the test > tren.

Also, do you think I will need some Dostinex?

 

[dabuffguy]

I would love to test p/tren a I just don't know if I could handle being a human pincushion

I'd follow the advice of starting at 300mg ed of the tren E, and 500mg test. If you gained a lot of fat, it is partially due to the fact that you already had a lot of fat. your sig shows you have a high bf = greater fat build up and estrogen than when you are leaner.

If you want to do a low calorie cycle and rip up, you could also go with some primo. And use anavar or tbol instead of d-bol to kick, anavar being my first choice as it kicks in faster and you can run it 8 weeks through the whole cycle.

 

[GUARDIAN]

I would love to test p/tren a I just don't know if I could handle being a human pincushion

u could stick with the test/e. when i said 6-8 weeker i was meaning keep everything else the same and just do 6-8 weeks of tren/a instead of 12 weeks.

Week 1-12: 750mg test/e ew
Week 1-4: 50mg dbol ed
Week 7-12: 50-75mg ed tren/a

Don't use the nolva since u r running a nandrolone. U may want some dostinex & letro on hand and I would definitely go with the hcg to run throughout the cycle.

if u want a tren expert u should get in contact with Khemix!