Cycle Critique (Please give input)

[AAP]

My next cycle is going to be a mass cycle. I am going to incorporate Armidex to control the water bloat (and hope for some vascularity off the test)

The cycle is going to be simple. 12 weeks, heavy test and one other high anabolic compound. I am going to follow a Mon Wed Fri injecting pattern.

I have 2 choices of Test. Sust and AraTest.
I can use either (Schein) Deca 200mg or Ttokkyo EQ 200mg.

I want to do 750mg test weekly, and 600mg of either Deca or EQ with it. Injections will be 2cc's (1cc test, 1cc other) on Mon Wed and Fri.

I am thinking of throwing in 50mg winny everday from week 5 -10.

Please give me advice on whether to use Sust or Aratest and the choice of Deca / EQ. (please tell me why one of the deca / eq would be preferred over the other.)

Thanks

P.S. and disregard my user name, I use this one to annoy them over on the Chat Board.



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[lawnsaver]

I like it so far. The aratest in fine and cheap. Try the new t400 its getting good reviews. But the bottom line is you cant go wrong with sus. I did 500mg of ara with 200mg of both eq and deca. I gained a total of 13lbs while losing 6% bf on a cutting cycle. I gained a total of 23lbs of lean mass.

I would do this:

week 1 to 10: 750mg of ara
week 1 to 10: 600mg of eq
week 5 to 10: 25mg, twice a day of winny orally.
.25cc of liquidex ed/eod

This cycle will allow you to control the sides much easier as you dont have to worry about the deca's progesterones conversion.

 

[pgerardone]

Choosing between the two tests is a personal preference. It depends what works best for you. I personally would take the aratest because I do not react as well to sust but everyone is different. As for the deca or eq take the deca for sure. Eq is very good for dieting, it increases vascularity a lot. For offseason I see it as worthless. You are going to be taking a lot of test so The eq will not make much of a difference in you gains. The deca at least will keep your joints good as you grow, you will be able to handle heavy weight and not have those annoying shoulder pains. Also, deca seems to work in a synergistic manner, it makes other drugs work better then either alone. As for the winny, WHY? If you like tossing money out the window then throw in the winny in the middle of your cycle. Winstrol is a very weak anabolic and will do absolutely nothing when combined with test and deca. You could use it when you come off the test and deca but using it in the middle is very dumb.

 

[AAP]

Getting my vascularity increased is a Plus for me. I do not necessarily have an "OFF" season. Each cycle, I try to put on lean body weight with minimal fat. Hence using the Armidex to control the Test water bloat. I was going to use Winny in the cycle in order to counter act the prog. effects of deca.

 

[solidspine]

Or you could also jump start with 4 weeks of D-bol at about 30mg per day.

 

[Jae]

I think he is trying to avoid water bloat and dbol is famous for being mostly water.

 

[MUSTANG_18]

I like Lawnsavers cycle! That should get you good gains while minimizing water because of the Arimidex and it should also make you hard and vascular because of the Eq and Winny combo. Good Luck!

M18

 

[PimpnAintEasy]

As for the winny, WHY? If you like tossing money out the window then throw in the winny in the middle of your cycle. Winstrol is a very weak anabolic and will do absolutely nothing when combined with test and deca. You could use it when you come off the test and deca but using it in the middle is very dumb.

Winny with Test/Deca should be a given. The synergistic effects of Deca, as an aggressive AR binder are seen when combined with a non-AR mediated AS (Class II) like Winny, Anadrol or Dbol. Winny has the unique advantage of being the only one that can help block the progesterone induced sides that can be associated with Deca use, not to mention is ideal for the last 5 or 6 weeks of a cycle to help solidify gains.

Lawnsavers suggestion is very sound IMO & demonstrates a very good grasp of AS synergy and managing H20 retention. I would follow his advice here.

Anal Ass, it is impossible to disregard your user name as you have asked---that along with Yellow D's avatars crack me up every time I see them.