cycle change????

[WARBIRDWS6]

what you guys think of this. i am happy with the cutting cycle i am on....but kind of hyped up on the sust/EQ/Dbol/fina cycle upcoming. i was thinking of changing up to this:

continuing the cutter:
EQ: 6 weeks 600mg EW (m/f 300mg)
Fina Pellets 10 a day (~60mg tren) ED 6 weeks
then:
Lean mass type bulker:
Dbol 50mg ED 1-5
Sust250 M/F week 1-10

or just do the cycle as normal as a Lean mass type bulker coming up in 10 days:
dbol 50mg ED 1-5
Sust250 EQ200 M/F
Fina Pellets 10 a day (~60mg) ED 6-10

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[gilly6993]

A lean mass type bulker....that's a new one

I still say convert and inject the fina but talking to you is like talking to a wall.....

I would do your second choice but run the fina past the Sus/ EQ for 3 weeks and then clomid right away.....

 

[WARBIRDWS6]

A lean mass type bulker....that's a new one

I still say convert and inject the fina but talking to you is like talking to a wall.....

I would do your second choice but run the fina past the Sus/ EQ for 3 weeks and then clomid right away.....

well i was meaning......putting on some serious size, but NO fat. so bulking up the bod....but with muscle mass only. or lean mass. you get the picture. so shut up....lol....and yeah, i got the sermon on the fina past the sust/EQ already....forgot to add that in. bulldog_10 told me that on email a week back or so. and stick the ED fina inject in your ass.....literally and figuratively....lol

 

[40butpumpin]

Hey bro, that sounds like a nice cycle and I wish you all the best with it.

IMO the fina might be a little bit of overkill as the eq, sus and dbol would do quite nicely I'm sure, but that's a personal choice so I'll leave it at that.

But as far as putting on serious size but no fat, this will almost entirely be dictated by your diet, IMO. To grow you'll obviously have to up the calories, way up. But if you do it very cleanly, you'll do well in ensuring lean mass. It's a tricky thing and to say it's not easy is an understatement to be sure. I really think the best you can do is just eat as clean and natural as you can. Eliminate condiments, sugars and sugary foods, foods containing bad fats (all fast foods), foods with a high sodium content, etc. Keep it simple, concentrate on protein rich and nutrient rich foods and you'll do well. I mean how can you do better than that?

Take care and keep us posted on your progress.

 

[WARBIRDWS6]

Hey bro, that sounds like a nice cycle and I wish you all the best with it.

IMO the fina might be a little bit of overkill as the eq, sus and dbol would do quite nicely I'm sure, but that's a personal choice so I'll leave it at that.

But as far as putting on serious size but no fat, this will almost entirely be dictated by your diet, IMO. To grow you'll obviously have to up the calories, way up. But if you do it very cleanly, you'll do well in ensuring lean mass. It's a tricky thing and to say it's not easy is an understatement to be sure. I really think the best you can do is just eat as clean and natural as you can. Eliminate condiments, sugars and sugary foods, foods containing bad fats (all fast foods), foods with a high sodium content, etc. Keep it simple, concentrate on protein rich and nutrient rich foods and you'll do well. I mean how can you do better than that?

Take care and keep us posted on your progress.

i figured to throw in the fina since it is quite lovely. lol. could go either way though. i know about the diet though....that is what worries me. eating clean is tough. and do i go 3K cals? 3500 cals? 4K cals? shit.....not sure. i am def starting lower though. i usually take in 75% of my protein through supps like metrx/whey....but the clean carbs are the killer. and the fast food is always tempting. i am determined to do the diet all the way right this time though...so i will damnit. is white rice a good carb???i have access to it at work and asked the other day in a thread but no one saw it. i'd be fine with lots of white rice, i like to eat that stuff.

 

[JG1]

is white rice a good carb???i have access to it at work and asked the other day in a thread but no one saw it. i'd be fine with lots of white rice, i like to eat that stuff.

White rice is pretty high GI. There are better choices.

 

[WARBIRDWS6]

White rice is pretty high GI. There are better choices.

yes...IC....maybe mixed (not at the same time of course) with a flax/whey/metrx drink?? and some ALA?? then i assume it would be a decent easy carb to eat, slowing absorbtion. i keep the drinks in the car...so i could down one right at the same time as eating the rice.

 

[40butpumpin]

I think white rice would be very low on my list of things to eat. It's very low in fat, low in protein and is moderately high in carbs. I'd look for foods that had the opposite nutritional structure: high fat (but good fat), high protein and low carb.

chicken thighs, breasts and legs
fish of almost any kind including canned like tuna and sardines
beef but I like beef made in soups (no noodles, only veggies)
cottage cheese (I get one with no added salt)
eggs but more whites than yolks
low sodium cheeses
green veggies: celery, cucumbers, peppers, lettuce, etc., etc.
fruit for carbs and fiber like apples, pears, oranges and bananas (keep these to just before or after your workouts)
oatmeal with milk and fruit is a nice meal high in fiber, protein and quality carbs (supplement with protein powder)
olive oil and lemon for salads
I also like avocados, walnuts and pumpkin seeds in moderation
a good MRP
lots of quality whey protein
a low, or no sugar, post-workout carb source
I also use flax oil
finally lots and lots of good, clean H2O

Try to always minimize sodium intake. Buy yourself a crock pot or two and cook up a bunch or chicken parts in one and a big roast stew in the other every 3 or 4 days and chow down on that stuff along with big green salads for big meals. Man I'm getting hungry here just thinking about it.

Just get tough and decide you're not going to eat garbage, it can be done. Don't worry about volume, just eat like a king, as much as you can take in, but just eat CLEANLY. That cannot be overemphasized IMO.

I'm no diet expert. God knows I don't get bogged down by ratios, calorie numbers, etc., however, I do believe that carbs should be used only for glycogen replenishment. Other than that it I think it should be only quality protein, fats and green vegetables.

Well, that's my opinion, others may disagree but again I say, how can you do better than that?

I hope that helps you out brother, again I say all the best with the cycle.

 

[WARBIRDWS6]

I think white rice would be very low on my list of things to eat. It's very low in fat, low in protein and is moderately high in carbs. I'd look for foods that had the opposite nutritional structure: high fat (but good fat), high protein and low carb.

chicken thighs, breasts and legs
fish of almost any kind including canned like tuna and sardines
beef but I like beef made in soups (no noodles, only veggies)
cottage cheese (I get one with no added salt)
eggs but more whites than yolks
low sodium cheeses
green veggies: celery, cucumbers, peppers, lettuce, etc., etc.
fruit for carbs and fiber like apples, pears, oranges and bananas (keep these to just before or after your workouts)
oatmeal with milk and fruit is a nice meal high in fiber, protein and quality carbs (supplement with protein powder)
olive oil and lemon for salads
I also like avocados, walnuts and pumpkin seeds in moderation
a good MRP
lots of quality whey protein
a low, or no sugar, post-workout carb source
I also use flax oil
finally lots and lots of good, clean H2O

Try to always minimize sodium intake. Buy yourself a crock pot or two and cook up a bunch or chicken parts in one and a big roast stew in the other every 3 or 4 days and chow down on that stuff along with big green salads for big meals. Man I'm getting hungry here just thinking about it.

Just get tough and decide you're not going to eat garbage, it can be done. Don't worry about volume, just eat like a king, as much as you can take in, but just eat CLEANLY. That cannot be overemphasized IMO.

I'm no diet expert. God knows I don't get bogged down by ratios, calorie numbers, etc., however, I do believe that carbs should be used only for glycogen replenishment. Other than that it I think it should be only quality protein, fats and green vegetables.

Well, that's my opinion, others may disagree but again I say, how can you do better than that?


I hope that helps you out brother, again I say all the best with the cycle.

damn i hate most of that food! lol. eggs and tuna and turkey and chicken are good though. but fruits and veggies! yuck! salads! no way! lol. oh well, i'll figure out some stuff i can eat that is good for me yet i like.....and just make sure i keep it simple and eat those things. i can handle monotony for 10 weeks. i suppose wheat bread is still the preferred bread? or is all bread no good anymore? lol. anything good at a chinese restaraunt? i work a P/T job there and wondered what the hell is good to get there. i figure chicken dishes with no sauces and all.............