cycle advise

[2scoops]

I have planned my first cycle this consists of 250 sust with 200 deca with nolvadex in hand.

I'm undecided on how long to run this cycle any help please
Also I have done lots of research but I am also undecided on post cycle I like the sound of avena sativa, maca, tribulus etc,
what would a good post cycle please

By the way I am 33 6'1 190lb and have been training on and off for 15 years I have decided to go to the dark side. I have a physically demanding job play lots of sports and i need a faster recovery time

many thanx

 

[smb_69]

hey - I am no expert by no means, but from reading lot of stuff on this board and elsewhere - you should use only one AAS for your first cylce. I did my first one last year, I was the same age as you and in the same situation - my first one was Deca only, but a lot of people on this site prefer Sus for the first cylce. One more suggestion - make sure that you follow some kind of post-recovery cylce - there are tons of the stuff on this site about it as well. Go to proteinfactory.com and get some of their Unleashed and Post-Cylce product - excellent for the post-recovery.

 

[Mr. Black]

You'd probably get some great gains using sustanon alone. However, if you insist on running deca, be sure to incoroporate some test in there for sure otherwise its quite likely you'll have some diffculties recovering, with the likelihhod of seriously destroying your libido for months afterwards. At any rate I'd run it like this:

Weeks 1-10
Deca 400mg/week
Weeks 1-10
Sust 500mg/week

Run 5000 Iu's of HCG a week after your last shot split into 3 shots, one every 5th day, or even better split into 10 shots and run 500iu's everday. Start your herbs around this time as well maybe running Tribulus 3000mg/day, Maca 5000mg/day and some Avena Sativa 2000mg/day. If you like (and haven't already used your nolva for any estrogen related issues) you could also run the nolva with the herbs @ 20mg a day. Run them for 7 weeks or and you should be good to go. Good luck!

 

[Mini Viper]

as posted by Mr. Black

You'd probably get some great gains using sustanon alone. However, if you insist on running deca, be sure to incoroporate some test in there for sure otherwise its quite likely you'll have some diffculties recovering, with the likelihhod of seriously destroying your libido for months afterwards. At any rate I'd run it like this:

Weeks 1-10
Deca 400mg/week
Weeks 1-10
Sust 500mg/week

Run 5000 Iu's of HCG a week after your last shot split into 3 shots, one every 5th day, or even better split into 10 shots and run 500iu's everday. Start your herbs around this time as well maybe running Tribulus 3000mg/day, Maca 5000mg/day and some Avena Sativa 2000mg/day. If you like (and haven't already used your nolva for any estrogen related issues) you could also run the nolva with the herbs @ 20mg a day. Run them for 7 weeks or and you should be good to go. Good luck!

I agree 100% with Mr Black: excellent advice as the cycle is a solid first cycle. He even planned out you recovery cycle, good bro!

Good luck 2scoops

 

[2scoops]

Thank you for your good advice Mr Black.
I havent started yet so maybe i will run sustanon 250 every five days should i run this weeks 1-10 and post just go with the herbs or shall i take hcg and nolvadex as well.

I dont really want to run 400 deca and 500 sus a week it does seem alot especially for a newb, then again what do i know just wanna be safe. Is this a good idea?

 

[Mr. Black]

If you ran 250mg of sustnanon every 4th day (roughly equaling 500mg/week) for 10 weeks that would definitely be a kick ass first cycle. The HCG is still a good idea to run along side the herbs and nolva but you could probably get away without if you exclude the deca (which is notorious for shrinking your balls). Myself I would probabbly run it all, better to have to much post cycel therapy than not enough.

 

[sh4dowf4lcon]

By now many of you have had disagreements with me over the amount of sust to use on first time cycle. I always recommend 250mg a week on a first time cycle with sust.
Again, I have known many people using 250mg a week on their first cycle to see how their body reacts to test. Also, don't forget sust stays active in the system for at least 3 weeks after each injection. So by injecting once a week you will gradually increase the test levels in your system each week. I also agree 8 weeks is plenty long enough for first time cycle to see gains on 250mg of sust weekly, esp. with the addition of 200-400mg of Deca weekly.

My 2CC

SF