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s0144

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I'm looking at my first cycle and I could really use some advice. I know from reading here the past couple of months that most of you are bodybuilders as I've only seen a couple of endurance related posts. I'm a cyclist and I'm hoping to pick up some help in recovery and RBCs.

Here's what I've considered. I know it's low compared to what you all are used to, but I don't want to really gain weight, just strength.

8-10 wk cycle of
250mg test-e/wk
200mg eq/wk

I'm looking at the eq from an epo-like contribution, and test for pure recovery.

question 1- at these doses, do I need to consider proviron to keep water retention down? or would be too much estrogen suppresion at those low doses?

question 2- should I instead run only test or only eq?

question 3- what should my pct be?

I'm looking to members here on this board for help since it seems like you all have your shit together. Like I said, this will be my first cycle, so I want to do it right.

By the way, I'm about 5' 11", 170 lbs and about 11% bf right now, as I'm coming back off injury. My nutrition is good, fairly high protein to help with keeping muscle, and of course lots of quality carbs. Thanks for any help you can give.
 
If it's your first cycle I would say just use test and you could even bump it up to 500. If you are gonna run EQ though you need to double the dose and extend it to 12 or more weeks. Couls add an oral to get you going at the beginning but you don't have to .

My suggestion
Test 1-10 500/week
Dbol 1-4 30/day
 
I think your dosages are very good for the first cycle,you could increase them,but I really think it is enough for you... it will be good to obtain some nolva...and some HCG or Clomid for your PCT..
 
ElMatador said:
I think your dosages are very good for the first cycle,you could increase them,but I really think it is enough for you... it will be good to obtain some nolva...and some HCG or Clomid for your PCT..

Good advice!
 
ruggermu said:
If it's your first cycle I would say just use test and you could even bump it up to 500. If you are gonna run EQ though you need to double the dose and extend it to 12 or more weeks. Couls add an oral to get you going at the beginning but you don't have to .

My suggestion
Test 1-10 500/week
Dbol 1-4 30/day

He's a training cyclist, IMO d-bol is a no-no!
 
question 1- at these doses, do I need to consider proviron to keep water retention down? or would be too much estrogen suppresion at those low doses?

No, I don't think that you are not going to have that much water retention with those doses.


question 2- should I instead run only test or only eq?

I would run them both. My next cycle is 500mg/wk test, 400/wk eq. For 16 weeks, but I have had a little more experience.


question 3- what should my pct be?

HCG, Nolvadex. I have never tried clomid before, but will be using it for my next pct. I have just heard about by sides from it.

Overall, I think that this will be a great first cycle. On the dosage, they are low but, I have always taken low doses of test, never went higher than 250/wk. On the eq, think maybe bump up the dosage to 400 weekly. It is a mild steroid, and the effects might not be felt at 200/wk.

Also extent the cycle to 12 weeks.
 
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