Cycle advice

[crsnavet]

I have asked before, but decided I needed more research...
I am 5'10 and very lean 7%bf @ 165. My ideal weight, maybe 185 or so. Keeping this in mind. This is my 3rd time doing a cycle. I don't count the first because I wasn't really training/eating and only gained 6lbs. My last cycle was 16months ago and consisted of Deca 400mg for 10 wks and Winny, 50mg EOD weeks 6-10. I gained maybe 13lbs. I am now very serious about my training and diet. I have a good strong foundation and work ethic. Help me put together a cycle. I am confused by all the different types of Test etc etc.....
Here are a few more facts,
It is inevitable, I will be paying gym prices for gear. I only wish to spend in the neighborhood of $500.
I was thinkinmg a good base stack of Sust.
DO NOT want to bloat. I like the ripped look.
Should I use Deca again? What about some more Winny or EQ?
I am staying away from Fina.

Please give me some help. The more I research, the more confused I get.
In 4 weeks, I hope to be posting results not questions.

Thanks!!!

 

[nautica]

If you buget is limited - stay away from sustanon unless you can find it cheap. Buy the test with the lowest price/mg.

Btw - why are you staying away from Fina???

Nautica

 

[crsnavet]

Maybe it will help if I give you guys an idea of my ridiculous "gym prices"
Sust $16 amp
Winny $200 for 20ml
Deca 300 $185 for 10ml
dbol 25mg for $2.50 a tab
EQ 200mg $185 for 10ml
I know these prices are very high, but people do pay them. I am not planning on being a career anabolic user and do not have another source. I have been following this board for years, you can see by my past posts, but the sources never came. Anyway, I look good now, but want to be a larger version. I enjoy my six pack.
Someone please model me a cycle based on those prices and my budget.
Gracias!

 

[Paulos]

Holy fucking crap that is like 2.5 as times as expensive as you should be getting...

 

[crsnavet]

I can probably get some other kind of test for under $100 per 10ml..

I know the prices are high, but unless my cycle falls out of the sky than I will just pay what I have to. Everyone I know is paying in the same range here.

I just really don't feel comfortable getting fina from this guy. Maybe I don't know enough about it and the conversion process. He told me Fina was $300 for 30ml, which sounded even more expensive than everything else.

 

[gilly6993]

Make your own fina.....it's easy and cheap......

 

[ALL41]

Maybe it will help if I give you guys an idea of my ridiculous "gym prices"
Sust $16 amp
Winny $200 for 20ml
Deca 300 $185 for 10ml
dbol 25mg for $2.50 a tab
EQ 200mg $185 for 10ml
I know these prices are very high, but people do pay them. I am not planning on being a career anabolic user and do not have another source. I have been following this board for years, you can see by my past posts, but the sources never came. Anyway, I look good now, but want to be a larger version. I enjoy my six pack.
Someone please model me a cycle based on those prices and my budget.
Gracias!

I feel ya crsnavet, if there is nowhere else 2 get than you have 2 pay the price the HIGH price that is. Maybe this will make u feel better I just picked up 150 dbols (5mg) for $125, 20 sus 250 amps @ 16 each, 30 clomids $30, 90 20mg nolvadex for $90 made my own fina 2000mg, kit, pellets, shipping, $65... it f ing sucks but what can you do... this should be a pretty good 10 week stack but it cost me about $600

 

[crsnavet]

Thanks ALL41, I do feel a little better now! I may look into making fina sice everbody talks about using it on here. Is it difficult. Fina is legal to order as long as it is not converted correct?

 

[ALL41]

Thanks ALL41, I do feel a little better now! I may look into making fina sice everbody talks about using it on here. Is it difficult. Fina is legal to order as long as it is not converted correct?

fina is easy 2 make just give yourself a few hours and follow the directions. as far as being legal, you can order the fina pellets for your cattle legally and your fina conversion kit for experimental use legally... FYI you cant order both from the same place... I wont be starting it until my 4th week of my 10 wk cycle but I expect it 2 be the shit by the way everyone talks....

 

[T2O]

Damn I pay 200 for 10ccs of cyp but I know its def legit quality American shit...... A lot of money though. I want to give fina a try though. Man I would just do test. I think at your bf% your like me you are not going to bloat that much and all the bloat can be controlled with nolva and your diet.

 

[crsnavet]

Thanks so far.
Does anyone else have suggestions? If I were to buy 1 kind of test, which should it be? I know he has test 400.
The Fina conversion kit..., doest it have everything I need (besides the pellets?)

 

[ALL41]

Thanks so far.
Does anyone else have suggestions? If I were to buy 1 kind of test, which should it be? I know he has test 400.
The Fina conversion kit..., doest it have everything I need (besides the pellets?)

I also used t 400 (400mg wk for 8 wks) along with 25 mg d-bol (for 3 wks) I liked the results, 21 lbs, not 2 bad of a bloat, strength gains were decent. It was my first real cycle besides some test I used a few years ago when I didnt know anything. Alot say that t 400 is crap, painful injections, 4 me it worked out ok, a slight pain in my ass 4 2 days or so, I shot 200mg E3D and paid $180 for the 10cc... if u do happen 2 get the t 400 here is a link 2 check batch #'s http://www.ausvetdenkall.com/
Peace

 

[crsnavet]

Thanks All41.
I keep hearimg about those "painful injections" If it is cheaper though. How was your bloat/gyno on that cycle?

 

[Spidey]

Shit man just buy some fina pellets (~$75) and a 4 gram kit ($30) and you have a decent 8 week fina cycle for just over $100. You can buy a little test enan. to go with it and you are all set for much less than 500 bucks.

-Spidey

 

[crsnavet]

Ok here is what I am thinking.
I think I want to run sust for weeks 1-8. I prefer sust because I am a little gyno prone and also it causes less bloat from what I have read. I have access to it in 10ml bottles, so I can run 625mg for 8 weeks.
I also have access to some 25mg dbol.
What if I use those weeks 1-4 to jump start my cycle
I can then finish up with some EQ or Win or someone mentioned Anavar
Any suggestions? Is there a special way I need to bridge the dbol into the eq or win?
Time is a factor. I don't have time to order/convert Fina. In 9 weeks I will be leaving for job training and will be living in a hotel for 6 weeks, so my training/diet will not be good enough for my cycle. Right now I have nothing but time to eat and train!

 

[ZXUNH]

Well you should probably wait till after your 6 week job. No point in going on a cycle and speding 5 bills if your just gonna lose everything you worked for. Your gonna need to train hard and eat well once you get off your cycle in order to maintain some gains.

 

[crsnavet]

I think I will be able to train hard enough to maintain thanks to 24hr fitness being where I am going, but not enough to gain.

Any opinions on which way I should run the cycle?

 

[Axe]

If I were you I'd run the sus @ 500/wk for 10 wks. If you want to jumpstart w/ d-bol wks 1-4 that would definately work. That is all of the anabolics I would use. You are no where your genetic limit and assuming you stuff your face and train well you will make excellent gains. Pick up some l-dex and run it @ 1 mg eod.

 

[crsnavet]

What mg dbol daily? I have 25mg tabs.
Would throwing something else in there truly benefit, such as EQ, win or var weeks 5-10 or am I wasting my $$$ ? I really want to acheive my results this cycle and keep my gains. Is Liquidex expensive? I have Nolva and clomid

 

[crsnavet]

Bump... anybody else? What about deca in the cycle?

 

[Axe]

What mg dbol daily? I have 25mg tabs.
Would throwing something else in there truly benefit, such as EQ, win or var weeks 5-10 or am I wasting my $$$ ? I really want to acheive my results this cycle and keep my gains. Is Liquidex expensive? I have Nolva and clomid

You should take 1 to 1.5 of the 25 mg tabs daily. As far as the cost of l-dex it is quite cheap and should definately be taken with sus. As far as other drugs go - eq is long acting and needs to be run for 10 wks so taking it for 5 is a waste. You could take var or winny but I honestly think the sus and d-bol is going to do you well. Like I said before you do not need to run a shitload of drugs at your size.

 

[crsnavet]

Thanks Axe.
I am not asking for a source, but I can't find liquidex anywhere. Is it similar to aromasin or Nolva? I can find aromasin, arimidex, but they are high $$$. Anybody...????
I am ready to start the cycle, but I want to have all in hand.