Cycle + Accutane

[rage_roid]

Hello, I'm about to start my next cycle, and usually I have problems with acne in my back... before I started to use AAS, I never did, but since then, every time I finish a cycle (this will be my thrid) I always get not terrible, but pretty bad acne...

My cycle will be the next:

1-8 Sustanon 250 mg.
1-8 Deca 200 mg.
1-4 20 mg. Oxandrolone
6-10 Winstrol 50 mg. (EOD)
1-14 25 mg. Proviron
1-14 20 mg. Nolvaldex
11- 2500 ui HCG
11 - 100 mg. clomid
12 - 50 mg. clomid
13- 2500 ui HCG
13-14 50 mg. clomid.

Well, in order to reduce or avoid acne, I was thinking in may be use some accutane during the cycle... but I'm kind of worry 'cause I'm puttin two 17c-alfa-akilated like oxa and winstrol (eventhough this is the depot version) in it as well.... should I wait till I finish the cycle to use the accutane??? I'll be glad to heard about anyone's experince....

 

[enacer420nj]

I almost dont know where to begin here...

#1
Run the test from BEGINING to END of cycle.possibly bump it up to 500mg/wk

#2
Run the deca at 300-400mg and for 10-12 weeks, so you will have to run the test longer also

#3
20mg ED of nolvadex is no good....run dermacrine throughout cycle at 4-5 pumps per day as an AI...this will also help keep estrogen in place and minimize acne.

#4
Your PCT should be something like 500iu mon,wed,fri for three weeks THEN start your clomid.

And thats all I have to say...personally id go with 600EQ instead of 200 deca or however much you decide to run, but make sure you run 100mg more test.

 

[rambleon]

bro...

Do NOT use accutane with abombs! Oxies is one of the most livertoxic compounds out there and accutane is havoc on the liver in itself. Actually accutane is livertoxic enough that a dermatologist will have u on monthly bloodwork to monitor ur liver values. If u got bacneproblems lose the abombs as a first measure. They are probably whats causing it. If it persists consider accutane but without any orals simultaneously.

Take care of urself bro.

 

[b_light]

orals and acutane is a no no, sorry bro! Drop the orals or do a accutane cycle after your a a s cycle is over to get ird of the acne.

 

[rage_roid]

I almost dont know where to begin here...

#1
Run the test from BEGINING to END of cycle.possibly bump it up to 500mg/wk

#2
Run the Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - at 300-400mg and for 10-12 weeks, so you will have to run the test longer also

#3
20mg ED of nolvadex is no good....run dermacrine throughout cycle at 4-5 pumps per day as an aromatase inhibitor...this will also help keep estrogen in place and minimize acne.

#4
Your PCT - post cycle therapy - should be something like 500iu mon,wed,fri for three weeks THEN start your clomid.

And thats all I have to say...personally id go with 600EQ instead of 200 Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - or however much you decide to run, but make sure you run 100mg more test.

Bro, I'm only intent to run a 10 week cycle, no longer than that, This is my second cycle, I'm 5'7 and 168 pounds, do you really think I need 400 mg of deca and 500 mg. susta??? Actually, as a aromatase inhibitor I was thinking in using arimidex, but it's kind of hard to get anything besides provi and novaldex (actually tamoxi) in my country, and the drug anastrozole, it's expensive as HELL...

Conserning to the test again, I actually was thinking in using 500 mg., but I'm really worry about the acne problem, in my previus cycle, I've only 400 mg. of cypio for 3 weeks, but that was enough to get under acne attack for 6 months...

bro...

Do NOT use accutane with abombs! Oxies is one of the most livertoxic compounds out there and accutane is havoc on the liver in itself. Actually accutane is livertoxic enough that a dermatologist will have u on monthly bloodwork to monitor ur liver values. If u got bacneproblems lose the abombs as a first measure. They are probably whats causing it. If it persists consider accutane but without any orals simultaneously.

Take care of urself bro.

Bro... Aren't you mistaken Oximetholone with Oxandrolone... Oxa is a 17c-alfa-akilated, but isn't as toxic as dianabol, oximetholone or even oral winny.... But yeah, that's the only think I've needed to heard, I wont take together, I will drop the oral (oxandrolone) or use de accutane after the cycle...

How about winny depot... eventhough is the injectable version, still a 17c-alfa, so is still liver toxic... but... toxic enought to not mix it with accutane???

Thanx to you all....

 

[enacer420nj]

Bro, I'm only intent to run a 10 week cycle, no longer than that, This is my second cycle, I'm 5'7 and 168 pounds, do you really think I need 400 mg of Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - and 500 mg. susta??? Actually, as a aromatase inhibitor I was thinking in using arimidex, but it's kind of hard to get anything besides provi and novaldex (actually tamoxi) in my country, and the drug anastrozole, it's expensive as HELL...

Conserning to the test again, I actually was thinking in using 500 mg., but I'm really worry about the acne problem, in my previus cycle, I've only 400 mg. of cypio for 3 weeks, but that was enough to get under acne attack for 6 months...



Bro... Aren't you mistaken Oximetholone with Oxandrolone... Oxa is a 17c-alfa-akilated, but isn't as toxic as dianabol, oximetholone or even oral Winstrol - stanozolol.... But yeah, that's the only think I've needed to heard, I wont take together, I will drop the oral (oxandrolone) or use de accutane after the cycle...

How about Winstrol - stanozolol depot... eventhough is the injectable version, still a 17c-alfa, so is still liver toxic... but... toxic enought to not mix it with accutane???

Thanx to you all....

You can do what you want im just trying to help, do you "need to" run 12 weeks? No, but deca takes a while before you notice it and then its time to come off..the extra 2 weeks are worth it IMO. Keep your estrogen in check like I said to minimize acne, go with derma or aromasin...arimidex is shitty IMO if your on a few different compounds.

 

[rage_roid]

You can do what you want im just trying to help, do you "need to" run 12 weeks? No, but Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - takes a while before you notice it and then its time to come off..the extra 2 weeks are worth it IMO. Keep your estrogen in check like I said to minimize acne, go with derma or aromasin...arimidex is shitty IMO if your on a few different compounds.

yeah bro, I know deca takes a while to kick in, and it's best result you can notice in a 12 week cycle, sorryly, I can only run it for 10 weeks... I'll try to get some aromasin anyways... thanx again...

 

[slat1]

Hello, I'm about to start my next cycle, and usually I have problems with acne in my back... before I started to use anabolic androgenic steroids, I never did, but since then, every time I finish a cycle (this will be my thrid) I always get not terrible, but pretty bad acne...

My cycle will be the next:

1-8 Sustanon 250 mg.
1-8 Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - 200 mg.
1-4 20 mg. Oxandrolone
6-10 Winstrol 50 mg. (EOD)
1-14 25 mg. Proviron
1-14 20 mg. Nolvaldex
11- 2500 ui HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin -
11 - 100 mg. clomid
12 - 50 mg. clomid
13- 2500 ui HCG
13-14 50 mg. clomid.

Well, in order to reduce or avoid acne, I was thinking in may be use some accutane during the cycle... but I'm kind of worry 'cause I'm puttin two 17c-alfa-akilated like oxa and winstrol (eventhough this is the depot version) in it as well.... should I wait till I finish the cycle to use the accutane??? I'll be glad to heard about anyone's experince....

Here are a couple of thoughts:
- You will need to run accutain for close to 6 months for the effects to truly work.
- Why nolv when you are running deca? Nolv can increase your chances or pregesterone related gyno.
- Why proviron with a nandrolone?
- I also want to give you props for not going crazy with the doses. All your gains are driven by your diet. I am 250 with 8 abs and I can grow like a weed on 250mgs of test a week.
- If it was me I would just run test at 250 and deca at 200 for ten to twelve weeks. If you diet is spot on you should have great results. There is really never a need to use tons of different compounds.

 

[rage_roid]

Here are a couple of thoughts:
- You will need to run accutain for close to 6 months for the effects to truly work.
- Why nolv when you are running Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - ? Nolv can increase your chances or pregesterone related gynecomastia.
- Why proviron with a nandrolone?
- I also want to give you props for not going crazy with the doses. All your gains are driven by your diet. I am 250 with 8 abs and I can grow like a weed on 250mgs of test a week.
- If it was me I would just run test at 250 and Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - at 200 for ten to twelve weeks. If you diet is spot on you should have great results. There is really never a need to use tons of different compounds.

Proviron and Noval as a anti-estrogens... since arimidex (anaztrozole) it's pretty expensive here and hard to get... if not thouse... what d you anti-e do you suggest???

 

[timtim]

unless you are being monitored by a doc when taking accutane and getting the required bloodwork i would not take that stuff on a whim. it has serious sides that a doctor should be monitoring for.