Cutting without Test

[jetty]

I've got one of those faces that just naturally looks chubby. My last test/winny/anavar cycle was a huge success but after seeing all the photos i could not possibly think of running test enthatate until i get down to 10-13% because of the bloated face. I guess I have two initial questions. One of which would be what kind of compounds should I use for my second cycle. I will not risk the sides of Tren and my research on deca leads me to think running it w/o test is just plain stupid. I have var and winny and i'm considering Primo even though it's expensive as hell. Anyone have suggestions?

Second question is about Test. I understand esters and all that and yes i used an AI. Does Prop still cause bloating? I'm not looking to get a six pack yet but i don't want a moon face.

 

[Tux]

If you got bloated from test and that's all you're worried about, just take an aromatase inhibitor like AIFM/adex/aromasin/letro or a SERM like nolvadex throughout the cycle, that will keep you from bloating. When I run 20mg/day of aromasin, I don't bloat even with 1g/week of enanthate.

 

[jetty]

i ran .5 of arimidex ED. It did help and i could bump it up to 1 gram ED. I might also get some AIFM and some yohimburn for the face. I really loved the feeling of being on test. Now what about running prop? is it really worth the frequent injections and pain?

 

[Tux]

There are plenty of brands of prop that are pain-free bro. Most UG prop is pain-free, and human-grade prop like Virormone is also painless for most people. If you don't mind EOD injections, then yes, test prop will give you less bloating because it doesn't build up to such high blood levels, therefore less of it converts to estrogen. Also, you could try a different AI, like AIFM or aromasin, and take nolva with it. Nolvadex blocks estrogen at the receptor site, and aromasin prevents the test from aromatizing to estrogen at all. So you cover both bases and get little to no water. Also running proviron can help harden you up nicely, prevent bloat, and increase free testosterone, which is good for your sex drive and your muscles. And tbol is always nice for the first 4 weeks or so!

 

[Cutt29]

prop causes far less bloat in my experience...if your worried about the pain then just cut it with some sterile oil

 

[jetty]

i'm not really worried about the pain. I had 1 ER visit along with multiple injection issues on my first cycle with some shitty UG test. First 4 weeks I just watched TV and read muscle mags. lol