Cutting without losing too much lbm?

[slimswede]

I'm going for 10mg (Generic Supplements) E.D plus cycling some clen, eca and t-3 in moderate doses for the coming 8 weeks.
This in an attempt to reduce bf without losing too much lbm

Food-wise i will do a moderatly strict diet with lots of protein, some good fat and a little less carbs than usual.

I'll be adding thai boxing classes to my regular gym workout during the second month.

This is my first time with aas, not the other stuff tho'.
I'd love some comments..


(Maybe better to post it as a new thread than in the end of a really long post like i did yesterday =)

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Slim

 

[serbyte]

I would a CKD with alot of very low intensity cardio. I would go only 3 weeks in a row though, then i would go back to a building routine for a week or two, and then go back to CKD.

 

[slimswede]

Bump^

 

[slimswede]

My stats are 23/6"2/262lbs and the goal is dropping to around 230-240lbs.

serbstyle1: I'll read up on CKD and maybe try it during next spring.

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Slim

 

[Krazykat]

whats your bodyfat %?

 

[slimswede]

Way up .. no idea really, 25-30%
I dropped roughly 85 lbs on t3, clen and eca 1½ years ago. The problem was i also lost lots and lots of muscle (duh). I'm still going the right direction, but now I want to speed things up a bit, while keeping that muscle.

I realised a mate has some winny tabs, any way to throw them into the mix?

 

[OMEGA]

try

G-plenish at 3 huge table spoons a say,

Gluccorell-r with carbs meal or carb ups,

Gla for additonal aid in keeping fat a bay,

and do cardio strateglically

that is if your on a low carb diet throw it in for a boost here an there like one or twice a week

 

[OMEGA]

also I believe in thermos pre anarobic workout, and never on hard legs day or cardio days

you don't need the artifical elivation in heart rate, or stress on your heart

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Definately go with a CKD for sparing lbm, but at 25% bf you do not need clen or t3. Actually you do not even need to do cardio. Your diet alone will get you under 20%.

 

[OMEGA]

Definately go with a CKD for sparing lbm,

yep I finally learned how to use it after 3 years of experimenting

it is by far the best way to go,


Mr.X thankyou

 

[Deleted member 33117]

OMEGA, right, alot of guys worry about the catabolic effect, but ketones themselves are anti-catabolic, and spare muscle protien. The anabolic effect of the supercompensation of carbloading after depletion is not achievable by any other dietary methods. Is more anabolic than just overeating every day. Those who have learned how to use it correctly have a powerful dieting tool.

 

[mlong23]

good luck

 

[slimswede]

Thanks for the feedback..

Hmm.. so what about the dbol et.c? Already went and shopped you see =o

 

[vespen]

What is CKD?

 

[OMEGA]

cyclical ketogenic diet

 

[Dr. JK]

Are you taking t-3 from the start of your diet?

For maximum benefits, t-3 should be done AFTER you have dieted so long where your natural t-3 drops.
By adding t-3 then it gives your body a further boost in fat burning.

Also, if you don't add an anabolic to your dieting, you may burn muscle as well which don't think you want.

Good luck

 

[trialbypinoy]

Definately go with a CKD for sparing lbm, but at 25% bf you do not need clen or t3. Actually you do not even need to do cardio. Your diet alone will get you under 20%.

is that true for everyone?

 

[Toozee]

is that true for everyone?

I'll put it this way. I did an 11 week CKD last spring after an incredibly stupid and sloppy attempt to bulk.

Started at about 18-20% bf. got down to 9% at the 11th week.
Only thing I used was an eca type supp.
Almost no muscle loss.

 

[tonybuddy]

well...

never done a CKD, but I will after the post-cycle period.

The thing with diet is that it can make huge changes in your physique, but only if you stick to it hard and take it seriously.

I used to have a cheat day pretty much every other day, but when I stopped I realized that just staying strong for a few days more at a time can help you get where you want to be.

 

[slimswede]

Yeah, the diet is extremely important of course. And I do know how to eat properly.
I used to think cheating days were for people with small dicks, until I read this article by a swedish sports nutritionist called Fredrik Paulun. He says that cheating days can actually be beneficial to weight loss because the body won't adjust metabolism to a "starving" level, which it does during low cal. diets.
So sure, I'll have a pizza once a week or so.

Are you taking t-3 from the start of your diet?

For maximum benefits, t-3 should be done AFTER you have dieted so long where your natural t-3 drops.
By adding t-3 then it gives your body a further boost in fat burning.

Also, if you don't add an anabolic to your dieting, you may burn muscle as well which don't think you want.

Good luck

I was planning on doing it all toghether.. dbol/t3 ed+cycles of clen and some eca stacker or similar. While dieting healthy but not extremely low in calories.

Thanks!