cut cycle

[GoldChest]

hi!
i have done one bulk cycle, and now im looking to cut, but i want to maintain the mass and add a little bit if i can...so, my questions :

1- I ran test e in the bulk cycle, and i had a lot of water weight, bloated, etc, for cut, since i will use keto diet, will i have this problem?

2- The cycles that im thinking about :

I -

1-8 Test prop 150mg eod
4-8 tren a 50 eod

II -
1-10 Test e 500mg week
and maybe tren?

and

III-
1-4 Test p 150mg eod
4-8 cut stack ( 50mg tren, 50mg masteron, 50mg prop) eod
4-8 Test p 100mg eod

which one of them?what i change?

any advice?
thanks for the help

 

[testboi123]

tren 2nd cycle i would def not advise...

 

[GoldChest]

what u advice instead?i heard about the sides of tren, thats why i was thinking in use a small dose..

 

[ryno9000]

hi!
i have done one bulk cycle, and now im looking to cut, but i want to maintain the mass and add a little bit if i can...so, my questions :

1- I ran test e in the bulk cycle, and i had a lot of water weight, bloated, etc, for cut, since i will use keto diet, will i have this problem?

2- The cycles that im thinking about :

I -

1-8 Test prop 150mg eod
4-8 tren a 50 eod

II -
1-10 Test e 500mg week
and maybe tren?

and

III-
1-4 Test p 150mg eod
4-8 cut stack ( 50mg tren, 50mg masteron, 50mg prop) eod
4-8 Test p 100mg eod

which one of them?what i change?

any advice?
thanks for the help

Oh brother...

I...urrr...I can't even begin to dissect this. You have no idea what you are doing do you?

 

[GoldChest]

why?lol

 

[ryno9000]

If you want to run tren go ahead and run tren. Then when you can't handle it, you can tell yourself silently "I should have listened." Or best case scenario you tolerate tren well. Then, 4 cycles down the road you can't seem to make gains even on steroids and have no more strong options for going on something stronger you can tell yourself "I should have listened." But I'm a big believer in doing what you want to, so if you want tren then go for it.

Your 3 cycles look nothing alike. Why do you want to run prop alone for 4 weeks and then add the tren? What are you hoping to accomplish by this? In your head, what was the "idea" that you were aiming for as you designed this? I'm curious.

You asked about bloating and then asked if that will happen since you will be on keto diet. No, it was not the carbs that made you hold water while you were cycling. Yes you can bloat to hell even on a keto diet. But I'm not going to lay it all out for you. It's your turn to do the research and find out. Want to run a gnarly shredder for a second cycle?

1-8 150mg prop EOD
1-8 50mg winny ED.

Boom.

 

[GoldChest]

If you want to run tren go ahead and run tren. Then when you can't handle it, you can tell yourself silently "I should have listened." Or best case scenario you tolerate tren well. Then, 4 cycles down the road you can't seem to make gains even on steroids and have no more strong options for going on something stronger you can tell yourself "I should have listened." But I'm a big believer in doing what you want to, so if you want tren then go for it.

Your 3 cycles look nothing alike. Why do you want to run prop alone for 4 weeks and then add the tren? What are you hoping to accomplish by this? In your head, what was the "idea" that you were aiming for as you designed this? I'm curious.

You asked about bloating and then asked if that will happen since you will be on keto diet. No, it was not the carbs that made you hold water while you were cycling. Yes you can bloat to hell even on a keto diet. But I'm not going to lay it all out for you. It's your turn to do the research and find out. Want to run a gnarly shredder for a second cycle?

1-8 150mg prop EOD
1-8 50mg winny ED.

Boom.

lol, if you read my post you see that im asking for advice, not telling im gonna do this and thats it. I cant use win, i already had problems with joints, etc, and i see a lot of people complaining about that with win...
At first, i think about use only test p 8 weeks but, in the first cycle i used : d-bol 3 w, test e 12 w and eq 10w, with no problems, gained 44lbs, thats why im thinking about stacking the test p with something, and not doing it alone, i had put tren in the possibilities because it will be great for maintain the mass, but i heard about the sides, thats why i put a low dose on that samples, but i can change it lol
so...
1-8 150mg prop eod
and what?
sorry if theres a lot of english mistakes lol, and thanks for the help

 

[ryno9000]

lol, if you read my post you see that im asking for advice, not telling im gonna do this and thats it. I cant use win, i already had problems with joints, etc, and i see a lot of people complaining about that with win...
At first, i think about use only test p 8 weeks but, in the first cycle i used : d-bol 3 w, test e 12 w and eq 10w, with no problems, gained 44lbs, thats why im thinking about stacking the test p with something, and not doing it alone, i had put tren in the possibilities because it will be great for maintain the mass, but i heard about the sides, thats why i put a low dose on that samples, but i can change it lol
so...
1-8 150mg prop eod
and what?
sorry if theres a lot of english mistakes lol, and thanks for the help

Well if you already have joint problems - GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR TREN CYCLE!

44lbs on your first cycle in 12 weeks? Holy smokes. What was your starting weight? How did you co-workers like that? I can just see you weighing 5 more lbs every time you enter the break room to get a cup of coffee. Haha! Ok, enough of that.

Just letting you know my own experience, Tren is the only steroid I have used (and I use to use lots of winny) that gives me joint pain. Something to consider. If you are cutting, anything with low water retention is your best friend along with your keto diet. Keto sucks, but I trust you know that. I can't think in ketosis. Anyway - test/anavar or test/tbol or test/mast are all incredible cutters. Mast is one of my favorites, doesn't get enough credit around these parts.