Currently Post Cycle...

[pursuit]

Hi all,

Took 8 weeks of 250mg of sustanon per week. 3 weeks after last shot started taking clomid and at the that point I felt great. Now 5 days later I feel SHUTDOWNish.

Anyway, I just got my HCG in the post today. Is it still worth taking at the this stage given that I should have taken it earlier. For example will the Hcg shut down LH production that clomid has partly restored so far?

I have 2000ius of HCG.
In regards to mixing I was just going to put the Bact. water into the vial which has the hcg powder in it. And draw 500ius four times at an interval of four days and storing the vial in the fridge. Will it last in the fridge this long? Is this correct procedure?

Thanks for any help that I may get.

 

[nydj66]

You are right that using HCG will suppress LH production, but I saw a study that showed LH and testosterone levels averaged for 10 men that were receiving test enanthate TRT injections and them had them discontinued with no PCT.

The study showed the anticiapted drop in test levels for weeks 1-3 as the enanthate dissapated. Then LH levels returned to normal at week 6 (3 weeks after test levels bottomed out) and test levels didn't return to normal until week 10.

The conclusion was that LH can recover fairly quickly on it's own but it takes about 4 weeks for the testes to recover and produce testosterone after LH has recovered. This would strongly suggest that HCG should always be used for PCT to jump-start the testes.

Ideally you would use HCG in the 2-3 idle weeks after the last injection, then start clomid at the normal time and bring LH levels up quickly (and above normal).

In your case it's kind of a toss-up. You could predict that your test level will be back in about 4 weeks. Or, you could start a HCG, clomid protocol that would take about 5 weeks to complete.

If bacteriostatic water is used to dilute the HCG, it will easily last for a month in the refrigerator. I think your plan for 500IU every 4 days may be a little light, I would go with 500IU EOD for at least 2 weeks. If you decide to start this protocol now, start the Clomid and HCG at the same time and continue the Clomid out 3 weeks past the last HCG injection.

Hope this helps.

 

[swordfish151]

Hi all,

Took 8 weeks of 250mg of sustanon per week. 3 weeks after last shot started taking clomid and at the that point I felt great. Now 5 days later I feel SHUTDOWNish.

Anyway, I just got my HCG in the post today. Is it still worth taking at the this stage given that I should have taken it earlier. For example will the Hcg shut down LH production that clomid has partly restored so far?

I have 2000ius of HCG.
In regards to mixing I was just going to put the Bact. water into the vial which has the hcg powder in it. And draw 500ius four times at an interval of four days and storing the vial in the fridge. Will it last in the fridge this long? Is this correct procedure?

Thanks for any help that I may get.

This doesnt pertain to your question at hand..but im curious what was your gains on the cycle?? did you inject just sust every wk? or e4d?

 

[slat1]

This goes to show.. don't start your cycle until you have HCG and Clomid in hand!

 

[pursuit]

My gains were not great. It has even made me think that the gear was fake and my whole shutdown feeling (and previous superman feeling) is a placebo effect. But I'm more swayed on the idea it was real gear. Gained about 7lbs with same fat (possibly some fat loss). Bench Press went up by about 20-25lbs.

 

[pursuit]

ps injected once per week

 

[Jayy5921]

Dont take the hcg now. Ride out the clomid longer until u feel normal. 50 mg a day. bro.

 

[Slyder190]

I'd use the HCG now in your case, as you should've used it earler.