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[LetsGrow]

I hear people talk about having a rough pct often but what does that really entail? Just curious what people are going through in their pct that makes it tough.

thanks.

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[EZ_E]

A lot of things;

A) The mental let down after a cycle
B) Running a half ass cycle and a shit PCT
C) Guys who don't diet and train before or after a cycle

 

[bonacris]

I hear people talk about having a rough pct often but what does that really entail? Just curious what people are going through in their pct that makes it tough.

thanks.

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Using drugs like nolva. It's a breast cancer drug and has some nasty side effects. Makes you feel like shit and does nothing to help your body start making testosterone again

Crazy cycles. 16 weeks of deca test and dbol in high doses will yield some crazy weight gain numbers but it's mostly water so will be pissed away.. guys think they are losing muscle but it's only water so they think their pct is shit.

Guys train like crazy on cycle. Perfect diet, not drinking etc then they come off and think they can ease up and eat less when the opposite is true.

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[Chameleonchris]

Using drugs like nolva. It's a breast cancer drug and has some nasty side effects. Makes you feel like shit and does nothing to help your body start making testosterone again

Crazy cycles. 16 weeks of deca test and dbol in high doses will yield some crazy weight gain numbers but it's mostly water so will be pissed away.. guys think they are losing muscle but it's only water so they think their pct is shit.

Guys train like crazy on cycle. Perfect diet, not drinking etc then they come off and think they can ease up and eat less when the opposite is true.

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I agree with you on the Nolva! Worst drug ever in my opinion. I never touch the stuff any more, it cramps me to the point where I'm almost crippled, sore joints, aching no energy, and there are much better drugs to use these days

 

[Mia305]

What about clmid guys? I always take clomid on PCT along with the HCG and arimidex. Nothing else, so far so good. What do you think about clomid for pct instead of nolva?

 

[WolfpackAlpha]

I hear people talk about having a rough pct often but what does that really entail? Just curious what people are going through in their pct that makes it tough.

thanks.

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PCT is hard for most guys for a few reasons:

1) they don't do it right
2) they don't recover
3) they use the wrong PCT

If done right, pct should work like a charm and you should feel good after, read the perfect PCT: The Perfect Post Cycle Therapy (PCT) - Evolutionary.org

 

[bonacris]

What about clmid guys? I always take clomid on PCT along with the HCG and arimidex. Nothing else, so far so good. What do you think about clomid for pct instead of nolva?

I prefer clomid. Along with aromasin hcgenerate unleashed and t force.

I know the rest are test boosters buy this combo I have found to work best for me.. don't feel as good as when I'm on cycle but not shit like I do with nolva

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[stevesmi]

I love cycling steroids unlike a lot of guys who have my experience who just stay on year round, its healthy and I don't have to pin year round (which I hate doing) .. I believe a pct is crucial but the #1 thing about pct is feeling like you are on during pct. I put together a PCT that I am proud of. you can read it here http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/p...est-pct-2014-time-break-out-whip-1328483.html

 

[LetsGrow]

Thanks everyone. It seems that tough pct is really more mental than anything else, although there does seem to be some physical issues as well.

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[dylangemelli]

a lot of the issues people have is they don't run the proper ancillaries on cycle and that's makes the transition into pct much harder because you will be far more shutdown than you should be and that makes a rougher pct... people tend to run very incomplete pct's as well and don't cover and address all the areas that need to be covered... for example, hcgenerate should be ran on cycle... HcGenerate is specifically designed to keep on cycle suppression to a minimum, making your transition into pct much smoother, allowing for an optimal recovery and more keepable gains… It also testicular shrinkage and your libido strong on cycle... you want your transition into pct to be as smooth as possible... running ostarine (mk-2866) in pct will truly help to not only keep gains but add to them as well... people don't address all the areas that need addressed in pct... recovery and kickstarting hpta is obviously extremely important but for example, cortisol needs to be addressed in pct... preventing rebound needs to be addressed... there are multiple issues that need to be covered...

 

[LetsGrow]

Thanks dylan.

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