crystalized cyp

[doneritebob]

cook up some cyp powder.
everything seemed OK.
After 1 week it started to crystalize (solidify).
I ran hot tap water over vile until it melted again and used.
Can someone explain why this happened and what I can do to prevent this from happening.

 

[mikefear]

Don't know much about homebrewing, but I know it happens.. bump for ya.

 

[justinjones1963]

What strength did you make the brew? I have found at 250mg/ml is as high as I want to go without problems. You can add some filtered BB into to help hold the cyp.

 

[abomb]

I had the same problem. Add some BB to it. That should make it hold.

 

[doneritebob]

What strength did you make the brew? I have found at 250mg/ml is as high as I want to go without problems. You can add some filtered BB into to help hold the cyp.

3. Test Cypionate 5 gram conversion
Needed
5 grams test c
Benzyl Alcahol 1ml 5% BA
15.25 ml sesame oil
Syringes 3cc & 5/10cc
18 or 20 guage needles
Vial
Sterile Vial
Whatman sterile filter

1. Weigh out 5 grams of powder.
2. Place powder in vial.
3. Add BA to the vial.
4. Heat oil in the oven to help sterilize it, heat to at least 212 degrees F. I usually
heat my oil at 275 to be sure, I put the oil in a muffin pan, just fill one of the
indentions this is plenty for these experiments. Also heat more oil than you need,
as you will not be able to get it all out of the pan.
5. Add oil to the vial, save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for later. Gently shake vial.
6. Heat mixture if necessary. I like heating my powder products, by placing the vial
in a frying pan, and placing it on the eye of the stove.
7. Place a 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial attach whatman sterile filter.
8. Place another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressure.
9. Draw out solution with a syringe, run though whatman filter.
10. Take other syringe with 2ml oil, run through whatman into solution.

Makes 20ml @ 250mg/ml

I did everything times two to make 40ml @ 250mg/ml.
how much more bb should I add. Did you mean ba and NOT bb

 

[abomb]

No I meant exactly what I typed. Add 7.5 ml (15%) Benzyl Benzoate. Heat it on the stove (on a frying pan) with the stopper off or a syringe in the stopper to release the pressure. That should do the trick.

 

[used2juice]

Yeah, use some bb in that mix and you'll be fine. Cyp is a tricky hormone and crashes easily. it is also advisable to keep from cold weather, or near open windows at night, etc.

 

[justinjones1963]

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Makes 20ml @ 250mg/ml

I did everything times two to make 40ml @ 250mg/ml.
how much more bb should I add. Did you mean ba and NOT bb

cyp can crash at 250mg/ml. The bew you psoted doesn't have any BB in it and that is why it most likely crashed.

Right now your brew is already 5% BA. Opinions differ but you should not go higher than 5%. Also, BA is used for its anti-bacterial properties (it stops the reproduction of bacteria) it is not used to 'suspend' the solution. That is what BB is for (and the Oil). The easiest thing to do is to add some BB. make sure you filter it.

Right now if you add one or two ML of BB you should be fine. If you add two ml of BB this will lower the BA percentage to 4.5% which is perfectly safe. You new solution will be 227mg/ml which should suspend it perfectly.

The first time I did a home brew I followed the brews Kian posted (what you have above.) Some do not use BB in cyp or EQ brews. Right now I do out my own measurements and usually stick with a 5/15 mix. (5% BA and 15% BB). I have found that BB helps suspend the solution and with thick substances like EQ thining out the EQ and oil with BB is a must.

EDITED: noting that the brew's were not Kian's (I believe in giving credit where it is due - see a bombs post below)

 

[abomb]

That is definitely NOT Kian's recipes. Those were copied. They do work well however.

 

[cydex01]

Like everyone else said, you need to add more BB; I've had this happen on more than one occasion with UG products.

 

[WhiteCastle]

A good rule of thumb is 2% BA and 20%BB for cyp. I have problems getting it to hold at 250mg/ml, so I just make it at 200mg/ml...

Here is what I would suggest.... Add 10cc's of BB to your total mix. Heat and shake/mix untill disolved... This should do the trick.

This will give you 50ml @ 200mg/ml.

NOTE: The higher quality the powder, the harder it is to get it to stay in solution at higher doses... In other words, you have some pretty good quality there.

 

[thezan]

just out of curiosity, how much mg/ml would you be losing if you used the crystalized gear? (will say a low number of crystals). From what you guys state it is an easy fix and a must, but just wondering.

Also, donertbob stated he heated up his vial untill the crystals melted. Would this bind the gear?? i wouldnt think it would. Educate me please.
Thx

 

[doneritebob]

Thanks for all replies.
I assume my gear is still good?
Just add the BB.

 

[justinjones1963]

Thanks for all replies.
I assume my gear is still good?
Just add the BB.

Your gear is still good.

The #1 thing to be aware of is if you add shit make sure you use the same sterile procedures you did before. if something goes in a sterile vial you filter it, wear rubber gloves etc. I mention this becaue I am a paranoid mu**erfu**er when it comes to being sterile and I love to spread the paranoia

Good luck with the brew!

 

[justinjones1963]

1) just out of curiosity, how much mg/ml would you be losing if you used the crystalized gear? (will say a low number of crystals). From what you guys state it is an easy fix and a must, but just wondering.

2) Also, donertbob stated he heated up his vial untill the crystals melted. Would this bind the gear?? i wouldnt think it would. Educate me please.
Thx

1) the mg/ml would be the same. The crystals could clog the needle and I imagine it would cause much more pain after injected. The oil and BB hels to disperse the test when it is injected - without BB (or with crystals) there is less dispersion and the absorption is slowed.

2) Heat increases the solubility of the solution and depending on how hot it is the test will melt. All together this permits it to hold the gear but once it cools (and the test hits a solid state temp again) it most likely will crash again.