critique deca/winny cycle PLEASE!!!

[JUICEMONKEY2001]

weeks 1-8 400mg deca
weeks 5-10 50mg winny ED


what do u guys think im 6-6 250 and i have about 15% body fat give ur take one or two percent......its all quality vet stuff......u think each is enough and what kind of gains will i see......and also clomid at the end....and when????

 

[JUICEMONKEY2001]

cmon fellas help a bro out!!!please

 

[JUICEMONKEY2001]

bump

 

[crsnavet]

I did it, but got some gyno from the deca. Same cycle except I did winny EOD. Gained/kept 12lbs on a fucked up diet.

 

[LftHndPwrHouse]

Run Liquidex or an anit-e of your choice during the cycle. You will retain very little water. Ill help against gyno.

Im shure you will get a good solid 15 out of that.

 

[crsnavet]

Not sure that l-dex helps with deca gyno, think you need some Bromo.

 

[Mikeygun]

where's the test? atleast a low does so you can still get it up.

 

[JUICEMONKEY2001]

u guys think i need some test in there........im not tryin to get big just lean up and turn everything into muscle or just add some muscle????

 

[crsnavet]

Most people on the board will recommend test. I did not use test with my deca and deca dick is miserable. Just run a lose dose of test, if for nothing else, for your little soldier!

 

[LftHndPwrHouse]

The test wont kill you. if you take an Anti-e you will be fine

 

[JUICEMONKEY2001]

a shot of sust every week???????????

 

[JUICEMONKEY2001]

also i took just deca by itself before about and had no problems.....u think i should throw a shot of sust in each week.....and for how long the whole cycle???

 

[crsnavet]

If you have sust, go for it. If not, just pick up some cheaper test and run it the entire cycle.
You may not have any problems with the deca, but why chance it. Test is cheap.

 

[JUICEMONKEY2001]

just a shot of sust a week good????

 

[JUICEMONKEY2001]

i can get sust easily for only 12 bucks an amp.....how many u think i should take and what weeks......?????????

 

[crsnavet]

What do you want out of the cycle? You want to gain 30lbs or just pack on a little lean mass? 1 amp sust each week is sufficient to combat deca dick. Is this your first cycle? That may be enough test.

 

[JUICEMONKEY2001]

nah i took sust last spring at this time and deca in the fall and i took a bottle of test cyp finished that a month ago.....i wanna lean up for summer and get stronger as i might be playin football in the fall in college depends on grades....i just wanna combat the deca dick....how much sust should i take and when should i start it???

 

[crsnavet]

I would say you wouldn't need more than 250mg test a week, starting wk 1 of the cycle. Start at same time as deca. The down side I see to doing sust would be the half life requires it to be taken about every 4 days. Since it comes in amps it is hard to break up the shot, so to be effective you may need 2 amps a week. I think you shot pick up some other cheap test that you can take 2x's a week. You can take 2 amps sust a week, but watch your diet or you will blow up. Can you get some other test? Ethanate or something?

 

[JUICEMONKEY2001]

ight what about this........
weeks 1-8 400mgs deca
weeks 1-3 250mgs sust
weeks 4-5 500mgs sust
weeks 6-8 250mgs sust
weeks 5-10 50mg ed winny

 

[crsnavet]

Probably no need to up the test dosage and then taper. Are you totally stuck on sust? If so, you need to take 500mg (2 shots) a week to keep your blood level stables. If there were a sanitary way to split 1 amp into 2 shots you could take it that way, but I wouldn't advise that. Take 2 amps sust, 1 on monday one on Thursday wks 1-8.

 

[Spectre]

If your going to play football and have ANY chance of being tested, don't do the deca it can be detected at or greater than 18 months.

If want to lean up and get a little stronger and faster, just keep the diet clean and do the winny. Go do your sprint and speed work and get a few days in the gym and a few days rest.

 

[JUICEMONKEY2001]

what about EQ and winny would i put on muscle and lean up like i want and do i need the test.....also how much eq a week and for how long???