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couple more pics of jay cutler, the kids and layinback
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WhistleBritches
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sweet
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Walter Szczerbiak
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jiggagold said:
co-sign
looks like a girl throwing on her BF's tee with just panties before a nite cap
layinback
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sugashane said:
he is very laid back. we talked about food and training. he's 100% old school. he trains 5 on 2 off, 2 - 2.5 hrs per session. jay goes heavy with
veeeery strict form. at his level of training, he has perfect muscle - mind
connection. mrs. cutler said his grocery bill is around 35 k per yr. he eats
a lot of chicken and fish.
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Walter Szczerbiak
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plus all the free supps he gets
layinback
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dirty~d~ said:He has a great stomach so why the hell is he wearing the mu-mu?
One of my favorites, for sure.Thanks for sharing the pics LB. Looking hot yourself, as usual.
thanx honey!!!
through the years i've notice that most serious trainers are not very fashion
conscious in the gym. it's usually the really shitty lookin guys wearin the
weight belts and pricey garb. outside the gym, i'm usually sporting a minimum of a thousand dollars in casual attire, but in the gym i'm wearing
30 bucks ( 160 with shoes )
layinback
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swole said:
lolololol he sure is!!! and you are right, it aint the weight. you can use
25 lb DB's and build 20 inch arms. i see guys swinging heavy weights all
the time and they all have one thing in common......they look like shit.
i'm the guy in the corner doing DB laterals with 20 lb's lol
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layinback said:lolololol he sure is!!! and you are right, it aint the weight. you can use
25 lb DB's and build 20 inch arms. i see guys swinging heavy weights all
the time and they all have one thing in common......they look like shit.
i'm the guy in the corner doing DB laterals with 20 lb's lol
Yeah, I realized I was REALLY using too much weight when I was using tthe same weight as these monsters on my lifts. Cut the weights on several lifts usually by at least 50% and focused of being strict. Ego went down but muscles grew. Thats the name of the game.
layinback
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sugashane said:
very cool bro!!! i check my ego at the front door of the gym.
2 little guys ( 16 or 17 yr olds ) approached me in the gym today.
" we noticed you were only using 60 lb DB's on your presses. how
did you get that big using little weights?" i gave the little bros a
crash course and you know what? they listened!!!
i've always been a proponent of moderate weight and strict form, but
after working with omega, i have adopted it as my sole philosophy.
sugashane
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layinback said:
Thats pretty cool. I've trained quite a few people (internship and I have my Exercise Science prof's full backing) but I started using some of Omega's outlines (not a lot but a few things we did) and they had great results. Some were people in my class and my prof thought they juiced! LOL
Omega taught me a lot on it too. I've had great gains with his program, I wanted to gain weight and size for football, but I lost like 10 pounds ( I also got food poisoning) but all my lifts went up quick. The only thing I'm worried about is when I have to max out for the strength coach when I transfer. Idk if my tendons and ligaments will be ready for it since I don't max out.
aquatic_glories
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great pics and infos. Thanks!!
What does he do that long?? I mean how many muscle groups/sets is he dealing with during 2-2.5 hours??
thanks
What does he do that long?? I mean how many muscle groups/sets is he dealing with during 2-2.5 hours??
thanks
swole said:
racist!
sugashane said:
Does anyone?
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heatherrae
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I actually would choose you 300 times over Jay as far as physique goes. Once a guy gets that big they just look too freaking WIDE. Makes him look wider than he is tall. You are just right.layinback said:
By all accounts Jay is a nice, unassuming dude, but he's a study in making a really cute guy look like a caveman. Just say no to HGH guys.
big_bad_buff
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you like to touch him huh!
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WhistleBritches
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LB your kids look "chill" or cool
layinback
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WhistleBritches said:
my 7 & 10 yr old are the essence of cool. both of these guys are big
classic rock fans and my 10 yr old, LeRoy, plays the guitar. he's a huge
jimmy page fan. caleb, my 7 yr old, eats, breaths and sleeps black
sabbath. yesterday he asked me if he could get a *real* tattoo of ozzie
osbourne on his back lol.
layinback said:lolololol he sure is!!! and you are right, it aint the weight. you can use
25 lb DB's and build 20 inch arms. i see guys swinging heavy weights all
the time and they all have one thing in common......they look like shit.
i'm the guy in the corner doing DB laterals with 20 lb's lol
You really think so? So, Ronnie Coleman looks like shit? How about Johnnie JAckson? Franco Columbu used some heavy weights in his day. Tom Platz went pretty heavy too. You think those guys all look like shit?
I could name hundreds of others too. I'm just a bit shocked at the sweeping generalization from you.
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WhistleBritches
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i LIKE his sweeping generlization
layinback
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ceo said:
whoaaaaa!!!! i said " SWINGING" as in terrible form, momentum etc.....
i'm talking about the guy with 16 inch arms DB curling 40's lol. i'm referring
to the guy who literally swings 35 lb DB to execute lateral flyes or the bozo
who loads the sled up with plates and has a 12 inch range of motion.
i didn't mean using heavy weights properly makes you look like shit!!!
however, heavy weights are not necessary for bodybuilding and can
actually undermine your efforts.
i've been training for many years and i've used a lot of different styles.
i have found something useful and productive from just about every form
of training, but going lighter with SUPER strict form and a limited ROM
has proven superior to anything i've personally encountered. you have to
remember that i have no interest in getting stronger or a 1 rep max, my
only goal is aesthetics.
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WhistleBritches
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no
this makes me feel better about not moving hooge waits.
layinback
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ceo said:
40 lb DB are not necessary. my arms are approaching 20 and i max out at
25's. i can barbell curl 120 for reps, but that's just for show.
take a couple of 25's and keep the bi's under constant tension. use a 2 second concentric and 2 second eccentric, squeezing the bi's at the top.
nothing counts but SUPER strict form.
do 4 or 5 sets like this with 45 second rest........... good luck
layinback
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Bino said:i have 16inch bis
and it's amazing to compare jay's looks from a decade ago
his head has balloned up crazy like
2.5 hour sessions? fug i'm in and out in 45 minutes
maybe that's why i have lil howitzers
bino, omega can show you a bi routine that'll put an inch on your arms in
less than three months. the entire biceps training takes 10 minutes a session.
i'd love to share it with you, but i'm sworn to secrecy
too much lootlayinback said:bino, omega can show you a bi routine that'll put an inch on your arms in
less than three months. the entire biceps training takes 10 minutes a session.
i'd love to share it with you, but i'm sworn to secrecy
fug it in the fall i'm finally gonna throw down and run a 500mg enthante cycle
honestly i really don't care about bis and never have, i don't even train them
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Walter Szczerbiak
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somebody caught feelings lol
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Walter Szczerbiak
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d00d, don't be dissin Mr. Miyagi
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SaladFork
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jiggagold said:
LoL @ BB's being weak as fuck
Ok, everyone just calm down! I'm here now, if anyone wants to know how a real man lifts feel free to fire away with the questions. I will answer them as detailed as possible, right after I finish my Taco Bell.
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layinback said:
Bro, i'm pretty much bang on 16" for bi's and 40's are very light for me on curls. Not swing curls either, strict with full ROM.
layinback said:40 lb DB are not necessary. my arms are approaching 20 and i max out at
25's. i can barbell curl 120 for reps, but that's just for show.
take a couple of 25's and keep the bi's under constant tension. use a 2 second concentric and 2 second eccentric, squeezing the bi's at the top.
nothing counts but SUPER strict form.
do 4 or 5 sets like this with 45 second rest........... good luck
How many strict reps should I do with those 25's? What if I can do 30 or 40 reps? Is there a limit before you need to add more weight, or do you just keep adding reps? How do you progress on that program? Since growing means progressing, I'm sure at some point you have to move up in weight or reps.
If I did those 25's for 4-5 sets, how many other exercises should I do for biceps? 2 or 3? When's the next time I'll be able to train biceps doing that much volume? I'm sure they'll be pretty sore after that.
I'd be curious to know what kind of weight/volume is used for deadlifts too.
I'm not saying this kind of training won't give you a "pump" and fill the muscles with blood. Right after a workout, I'm sure you'll get an extra half inch on the tape.
...huh?
layinback said:
Pick3 is white collar too, when the jizz drips off his chin.
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ceo said:How many strict reps should I do with those 25's? What if I can do 30 or 40 reps? Is there a limit before you need to add more weight, or do you just keep adding reps? How do you progress on that program? Since growing means progressing, I'm sure at some point you have to move up in weight or reps.
If I did those 25's for 4-5 sets, how many other exercises should I do for biceps? 2 or 3? When's the next time I'll be able to train biceps doing that much volume? I'm sure they'll be pretty sore after that.
I'd be curious to know what kind of weight/volume is used for deadlifts too.
I'm not saying this kind of training won't give you a "pump" and fill the muscles with blood. Right after a workout, I'm sure you'll get an extra half inch on the tape.
this type of training is iconoclastic. it certainly causes controversy and
discord lol. when you think about it, most great ideas are initially met with
skepticism or down right anger. the changing of the guard has historically,
been very painful. most prefer to follow the herd.
i read your post concerning weight training. bro, you are very
knowledgeable and you have a real talent for communication.
i'm not challenging your training philosophy, ceo. i respect your
beliefs and i'm sure you've garnered real world results lifting
heavy, i know i have. however, you seem to be stuck in a paradigm
that asserts big weights = big muscles. i'm merely saying, that this is
not necessarily true. i'm saying that it's more important HOW you
perform your sets and reps.
a couple of weeks ago, i met a bb'ing competitor who was intrigued with
my style of training. he was shocked at the small weights involved. he
readily admitted that i looked better than him, but he couldn't understand
the concept of using half the weight that he was accustomed to. i invited
him to train with me. he could not finish the routine!!! he understood, first
hand the value in this type of training. ( he was pretty much shot at the
half way point ) i explained that it took me a couple of months to work up
to this routine. 99.99% of people couldn't do my current regimen without
the building process. going heavy is infinitely easier, but sorely less
effective for building muscle. i've done both, so i have a solid frame of
reference.
it is a progressive program, you increase the weight and the rep range runs the gamut. it is a very precise and strategic method that yields
incredible results........in a hurry!!!
btw the foundation of the biceps routine is two movements. one that
focuses on the long head and one that targets the short head. very
simple. as i mentioned earlier, i can BB curl a LOT of weight, but that's
not relevant here.
layinback said:
This is getting too involved for me right now. I was trying to understand a little more about the progression of the routine. What happens when you can use the 25's for 30-40 strict reps, ya know? Is there a rep range? I assume you go to failure. Bah. No matter.
I'm not trying to argue, nor am I opposed to any training philosophy/style. I'm training DC right now and people either love it or hate it. It has gained popularity over the years, but it's far from the typical mainstream, volume based, obsessive compulsive budybuilding routines. So, I know exactly what you're talking about there in the first paragraph of your response.
Anyway...I'm tired. Gotta go to bed and hopefully my son won't keep me awake for 3 and a half hours (in a row) this morning!! I don't know why or how people can have multiple kids. They just must not like to sleep. I can't imagine having to do all this again in say 2 or 3 years!
layinback said:[/SIZE]
i have 4 boys!!! many many sleepless nights lol. i miss the baby-toddler
years. my two oldest are 16 and 18 ........i love 'em, but i want to kill
them. ( teenagers suck )
Yea, can't wait for 16 years from now when he's borrowing the car and cleaning out the liquor cabinet (hopefully not in the same night)!! Just kidding! I hope he doesn't do that.
OMEGA...not being a critic, just trying to understand a little more. I should take some 25's and see how many strict reps I can get. I'm guessing it would be around 30 though. Maybe more? Eh. I don't fault or criticize your style...hell I know next to nothing about it. Right now I'm doing something different that has yielded good results. Well...right now, for the past 6 weeks, I have barely been able to drag my tired ass into the gym...and about half of those 6 weeks, I haven't been in at all. I'm still getting used to this baby thing.
Oh well. I'll get back into it again like I need to. This little guy is worth some missed time in the gym. I still look better than probably 95% of guys my age.
chazk
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layingback , I do all my isolation movments ( bicep supination curls , lateral raises , rear deltoid lifts ) with little weight.
Side deltoid maybe 25lbs at the most on each arm. usually 20lbs
The key like you mention is working the side deltoid not letting the body take over
no swing , no up and down bullshit, just pure side delt raising the arm and resisting the weight on the way down
same with curls
If you do a dumbell curl for biceps with just 25lbs and you take 2 seconds up 1 second sqeeze then 2 seconds to lower. You just spent 50 seconds doing the excersize.
vs someone else that just slings the weight and is done in 20 seconds. You worked the muscle 2 1/2 times as long with strict form vs the guys slinging weight.You fatigued the bicep and stimulated more growth ,the guy swinging the weight just goes home with sore elbows and wrist at night
Isolating the biceps with out the forearm taking over or movingthe elbows to gain leverage can be hard to do , to much weight it becomes impossable to do.
I try to explain the difference of bodybuilding and weightlifting to people.
bodybuilding =stimulating the muscle to build growth.
weightlifting =moving weight from point a to b
Does not click with many people. They always think more weight is better, not always the case. Maybe with the three compound movements deads,bp,squats but other then that it is all strict form and isolation that wins the prize.
Side deltoid maybe 25lbs at the most on each arm. usually 20lbs
The key like you mention is working the side deltoid not letting the body take over
no swing , no up and down bullshit, just pure side delt raising the arm and resisting the weight on the way down
same with curls
If you do a dumbell curl for biceps with just 25lbs and you take 2 seconds up 1 second sqeeze then 2 seconds to lower. You just spent 50 seconds doing the excersize.
vs someone else that just slings the weight and is done in 20 seconds. You worked the muscle 2 1/2 times as long with strict form vs the guys slinging weight.You fatigued the bicep and stimulated more growth ,the guy swinging the weight just goes home with sore elbows and wrist at night
Isolating the biceps with out the forearm taking over or movingthe elbows to gain leverage can be hard to do , to much weight it becomes impossable to do.
I try to explain the difference of bodybuilding and weightlifting to people.
bodybuilding =stimulating the muscle to build growth.
weightlifting =moving weight from point a to b
Does not click with many people. They always think more weight is better, not always the case. Maybe with the three compound movements deads,bp,squats but other then that it is all strict form and isolation that wins the prize.
