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Benzi

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I do not have a means to get HCG/Clomid>armidex
and Tirbulus supposedly doesn't work for shit
what OTC's do you guys recommend?
 
Well it looks like we are left with Vitex, MACA, and Tongkat ali aka pasak bumi. Vitex really seems to harden you up, lowering estrogen? Haven't used MACA, but have heard good things. As far as Tongkat ali aka pasak bumi, I haven't used that either, only read about it, and it looks interesting.
 
What is everyones take on Biotest M?

Par:
If i remember correctly you said a friend of yours developed M and sent you some to sample. WHat did you think about it? Would this have a place post ONE+ cycle?
 
I have found a ton of sites that sell MACA and Tongkat ali, but I don't know the quality of their products. I got my Vitex from Vitamin World for somwhere between $6-7. I think Vitamin World's stuff is decent quality, at least their herbs are.
 
i can't find vitex, maca, or tangkal ali inline
who makes each and is there another site that anyone know's of?
 
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