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Could Mike Tyson be natural?

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Am I totally naive in thinking that he may be natural? Or is it a given that he has juiced? And for those that think he has...what kind of cycles do you think he does? I know he is a genetic freak and all and I totally admire his ferocious looking build. I'm just wondering if he has had any help.
 
Not sure but would the various boxing commissions be checking for roids? Boxers all have to be cleared by appointed doc's prior to each fight.
 
Bro the guy went craxy because of juice and loves to take halotestin and YES HE JUICES HI ASS OFF i'm seprised no one else has said anything because that guy is fucking psycho when it comes to gear, test susp, fina, all highly androgenic ones and plus if i'm not mistaken the guy is schitzofrenic(sorry about the spelling) plus probably some othe metal desease also an it's due to too much halo....hell of a fighter though give him that...
 
im pretty sure most pro-athletes in any sport have touched the juice, and please dont' flame for the suspcion.

anyways, tyson, probably did, but consider that he has been in and out of jail..the perfect environment almost, eat sleep workout. and he has had pro trainers/advice since a very young age.

he works his ass off, that has to be recognized
 
And genetics. The guy has a lot of natural size. Iron Mike. It still cracks me up to hear a high pitched voice comming from such a monster.
 
ivanushka said:
Bro the guy went craxy because of juice and loves to take halotestin and YES HE JUICES HI ASS OFF i'm seprised no one else has said anything because that guy is fucking psycho when it comes to gear, test susp, fina, all highly androgenic ones and plus if i'm not mistaken the guy is schitzofrenic(sorry about the spelling) plus probably some othe metal desease also an it's due to too much halo....hell of a fighter though give him that...
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Don't tell me you asked him personally? :rolleyes:

He probably used halos or cheque drops though.

-sk
 
he could certainly be natural and just have crazy good genetics. if you look at pics from when he was 17/18 yrs old, he was pretty big and cut. couple that in with the temper and general craziness that he displays and i'd guess that he was an XYY man.
 
When he first got out of prison he weighed 205 lbs. and was still pretty muscular. Take some roids and add another 20 or 30.
 
None of you know for sure, unless you're a close friend of his, which I doubt. I believe that Mike would have a great body whether he used steroids or not. The guy is a genetic freak by all means. He's always been big, even at a very young age (early teens). His fighting weight never really fluctuates that much and he's been at it for a long time. He usually always weighs right around 220 lbs, never 15 lbs lighter or heavier. I'm not saying that his trainers never had him on something to increase his aggression like Halo or the Cheque drops mentioned earlier, but he doesn't need steroids to have an incredible build. He is truly gifted in having a very bulky muscular body.

BTW, he has a fight coming up in February, I believe it's going to be on Showtime. I can't wait!

NN
 
It's interesting that boxing is one area where the contesants can gain advantage from juicing yet I believe they were late to realize it. (Boxers tend to be dumb and their trainers aren't much smarter) I'd say most of the top guys today are using something. Metyltest would be the logical choice - can't be detected and makes you one angry motherfucker and strong as a son of a bitch.

Tyson is just a psycho. He had tremendous skills but lost his way. Once Buster Douglas kicked his ass he was never the same. I wouldn't pay 2 cents to see him fight these days.
 
Nelson Montana said:

Tyson is just a psycho. He had tremendous skills but lost his way. Once Buster Douglas kicked his ass he was never the same. I wouldn't pay 2 cents to see him fight these days.
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Me either.. The seats go for 1000$ bucks!!! Pay per view goes for 40.00$ !!! lol
 
HALO! HALO! HALO! "#@!!%&**$#@!!!**#@!"
 
Nutrient-Nut,

You need to get your ass back to watchin' "Sprockets", or trying on a new brand of Liederhosen!

You have to be one naive motherfucker to think that Tyson isnt juiced to the gills. And no, you dont need to be his good friend to figure that out.
 
Nutrient-Nut said:
None of you know for sure, unless you're a close friend of his, which I doubt. I believe that Mike would have a great body whether he used steroids or not. The guy is a genetic freak by all means. He's always been big, even at a very young age (early teens). His fighting weight never really fluctuates that much and he's been at it for a long time. He usually always weighs right around 220 lbs, never 15 lbs lighter or heavier. I'm not saying that his trainers never had him on something to increase his aggression like Halo or the Cheque drops mentioned earlier, but he doesn't need steroids to have an incredible build. He is truly gifted in having a very bulky muscular body.

BTW, he has a fight coming up in February, I believe it's going to be on Showtime. I can't wait!

NN
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Tyson weighed 235 for his last fight. He has ballooned up to 270 pounds between fights, it was reported.
 
if memory serves me correctly most boxing commisions dont test for steroids, but probably for diuretics before the fight weight ins and what not. although thats just a guess about the diuretics, i dont really see how it would benefit them from taking them other than getting rid of some of the water weight. (kinda sounds like the ifbb.)
 
Boxers tend to be dumb and their trainers aren't much smarter)
Where in the hell did you ever figure that out. I know many very educated boxers..... I've been around boxing on and off for 15 years. I do agree he is a total nut case which doesn't come from the roids if he takes any
 
Gateway said:
Nutrient-Nut,
You have to be one naive motherfucker to think that Tyson isnt juiced to the gills. And no, you dont need to be his good friend to figure that out.
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Hey Gateway, I believe that many athletes use steroids. I'm sure that Barry Bonds is on the juice as well as Sammy Sosa and many others. But, when it comes to Iron Mike, I'm not so sure, because he is a genetic freak like I mentioned previously. I'm not a racist by any means, but I believe that some black guys are just naturally very muscular and they tend to pack on muscle more easily than most white guys. Maybe they have very high testosterone levels, I don't know. For the most part Mike is lazy and he doesn't lift weights like a bodybuilder at all, but he looks like he lives in the gym.

NN:)
 
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Tyson has never been close to 270 in his life..........Dare to find a pic of him over 240...you cant. I dont understand why is is so hard for many of you to believe Athletes can get to the pro level DRUG FREE! Not the IFBB but, NFL, MLB, NHL ect There are over 250 million Americans and we are not all created equil. A very small percent have amazing potential. A small percent of them realize their gift and capitalize------Freak
 
i've never posted on this board but...

i train with a guy who was childhood friends with mike and he told me that both of them juiced it back in the 80's. i don't think this guy would lie to me and both of them are huge. believe what you will...

dick
 
I have mentioned this once before on here, but at this years Olympia he did have an informal meeting with Chad Nicholes in the lobby of the Mandalay Bay Casino.
I was hopeing to see a new and improved Tyson in his upcoming fights.
 
sure he juices likke almost heavyweight does...mike used to be fat when he was young before he transformed in "destruction machine" and obtained that muscular look
 
I agree with many of u guy's that he has juiced! Lets face it, he is a pro-althlete and steriods are designed for a pro-athlete. When u are in the ring, fighting for big prize money and recongition, your gonna be using some sort of drug, especially when your opponent is jacked.
 
Mike1107
You have no clue. Tyson was the fatest he has ever been in his last fight. There are plenty of pics of him in his young teens training with Amato(sp) The guy has ALWAYS had an impressive build. "fat when he was young" Do you have any idea how old he was when he won the heavy wieght title? LOL Most of the heavyweights are fat slobs which is why that divsion sucks. As far as drug testing, Oscar D's last opponent made headlines for testing postive post fight for Winstrol.
 
A lot of people like to speak on rumor rather than fact. That is a trait of a girl (gossip). Why say anything if you arent sure? Some people have the opinion that he uses something, but a lot of people are stating this as fact.

Nelson, I know you are very intelligent, especially in regards to anabolics, but I dont believe they would help boxers at all. I dont believe introducing any kind of variable to a boxer is good. You mentioned methyl-test. Unfortunately I have had this before, it made me sick as hell. It has the same effects on others. The last thing a boxer needs is to be sick in the ring. Muscle pumps and boxers that are too muscle bound are too tight during a fight and have a hard time getting off shots.

Vargas was defeated by delahoya. Vargas tested positive for winny. He was aggresive as hell but there is a good possibility that the winny hindered him in that fight.

Last, boxers are given a urine test in front of an official after the fights. Now im sure this can be compromised somehow, it is part of the rules. Our friend Tyson has only declined to be tested 1 time. Most people believe this to be because he tested positive for marijuana a few days later.


Now, I cant say one way or another if any boxer uses steroids unless I know them personally and have seen them take steroids, but I dont see how it would help them that much and I believe they wouldnt see it as worth the risk of fines and getting belts stripped.
 
Bullshit, Tyson used to train and live at Don Kings place in Cleveland, I saw him at a levert concert back before the rape conviction, and he was about 270 then!!!! I dont think that he takes roids to get bigger, but I do believe that he uses them while cutting weight, and to help his aggressiveness and his endurance.
 
I seen a pic recently between one of his long breaks between last fight. It was him on vacation in a foreign country on a beach smoking a joint with big ol-love handles hanging over his back. He had to be 250lbs +.
 
Naa to lazy you

GENETIC_FREAK said:
Dig up the "recent pic" of the 250+ Mike tyson. Its amazing you guys seem to thinnk it takes drugs to build a body like this.

http://brevheart.tripod.com/taleofthetape.htm
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It was posted on Bolex do a search, he was all fat and bloated smoking a joint on the beach think it was also posted on National Enquirer.
I did not say he was on roids just well over 250lbs off season. If interested go to Bolex search under Tyson and you will find it a few months ago it was posted.

IMO/ he did them before at many different times in his career.

I can care less
 
I did read that sites stats said he has 16"inch bi's, my forearms are that big. They sure the hell look bigger than 16". I had 16's when I was 15yrs old.
 
Tyson is a fat slob. The only reason he ever made it as far as he did was because he is too fucking dumb and the punches don't register in his thick skull. I mean this guy bit someone's ear off. He never should have been allowed to fight after that.


Bozz
 
Bozzman said:
Tyson is a fat slob. The only reason he ever made it as far as he did was because he is too fucking dumb and the punches don't register in his thick skull. I mean this guy bit someone's ear off. He never should have been allowed to fight after that.


Bozz
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I agree he probally shouldn't have been given a licence again after the holyfield fight, however to say that he is a fat slob is just you speaking out of your apparant ignorance. Also I am sure you being the internet commando that you appear to be that you would say all these things to his face?? Moron.
 
Oh, I forgot to mention he's a woman beater. Ignorance of what? Why don't you just call your self blankman, seems that's how intelligent you are. Asswipe.
 
I could give a shit about Tyson..... He is a washed up thug but, I believe better than average genetics can build a physique like his. Besides, its better than the queer "whats Brad pit on" threads
 
Bozzman said:
Tyson is a fat slob. The only reason he ever made it as far as he did was because he is too fucking dumb and the punches don't register in his thick skull. I mean this guy bit someone's ear off. He never should have been allowed to fight after that.


Bozz
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Tyson was amazing in his youth. He is a legend in boxing and will always be one. You are obviously biased towards him or know nothing about boxing. He has broken records and has had one of the most exciting careers in the sport.
 
To sum this up.

Tyson had great (maybe the greatest) natural ability at a very young age, and lost it at a very young age. Hasn't looked good since Ammoto died.

I don't know why everyone thinks he's so big. I met him and he was about 5'10" 220 pounds and soft.

Roids will improve strength but not ability. Metyltest, if you could tolerate it, would be good the night of the fight but not as a regime. Actually, ephedra would be good after the 3th round.

I say fighters are dumb not to disparage them. I don't mean all of them, but lets face the facts -- University educated people don't become boxers. It's a sport of the poor and the poor tend to be less educated and the less educated tend to be dumb. And by the way, my dad was a top ranked pro welterweight. He went under the name of Rocco Rossano and had a record of 89-4. He was on his way to becoming the champ until a hammer fisted cuban by the name of Kid Gavalin ended his career. Boxing is the one sport where you're either the best, or you're nobody.
 
Nelson Montana said:
To sum this up.

Tyson had great (maybe the greatest) natural ability at a very young age, and lost it at a very young age. Hasn't looked good since Ammoto died.

I don't know why everyone thinks he's so big. I met him and he was about 5'10" 220 pounds and soft.

Roids will improve strength but not ability. Metyltest, if you could tolerate it, would be good the night of the fight but not as a regime. Actually, ephedra would be good after the 3th round.

I say fighters are dumb not to disparage them. I don't mean all of them, but lets face the facts -- University educated people don't become boxers. It's a sport of the poor and the poor tend to be less educated and the less educated tend to be dumb. And by the way, my dad was a top ranked pro welterweight. He went under the name of Rocco Rossano and had a record of 89-4. He was on his way to becoming the champ until a hammer fisted cuban by the name of Kid Gavalin ended his career. Boxing is the one sport where you're either the best, or you're nobody.
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Again, I know you are a smart person but I am going to have to disagree with you for a second time. Boxers are best when they are cool and collective. Power helps, but the best are masters of the mind. I think most good boxers would be hindered rather than helped with the aid of supplements (ephedrine, think of hydration problems).

Next, not all boxers are dumb. Granted a lot are, not all. Lennox Lewis is actually a very smart guy. Look at the Klitschko brothers, Vitali and Wladimir both have doctorate degrees from college.
 
Mohamed Ali was smart to. He took a few to many blows to the head.
Foreman's still a cool dude. Many of the implication's of boxing show themselves when its to late.
 
Mohamed Ali was smart to. He took a few to many blows to the head.
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Ali is suffering from Parkinson's disease (a condition caused by the death of a great percentage of one's dopaminergic neurons). Their is very little evidence that repeated trauma to the frontal lobe can result in this condition. It can cause similar symptoms (Former steeler great Mike Webster is a good example), but not to the degree that a parkinson's diagnosis would be made. Your comment is not only disrepectful, but ignoranant as well.
 
I think some of you are confusing being a
"smart fighter" with being smart.

Ali is the greatest tragedy of all because everyone thought he was smart enough to quit before he got hurt, but he didn't.

To say that blows to the head affect the brain is neither disrepectful or ignorant. A single punch to the head can cause irreperable damage. It's the horrible reality of the sport.

Lewis smart? His diction makes him sound better than he is. He often uses incorrect grammer. He's not a dunce, but no Rhodes scholar. Look, I'm not trying to put anyone down and there are exeptions to every rule, but boxing is not a game that educated people tend to get into. Even boxers will tell you that. And since this thread is about Mike Tyson, I have to say...the guy's dumber than paint.
 
Nelson Montana said:
I think some of you are confusing being a
"smart fighter" with being smart.

Ali is the greatest tragedy of all because everyone thought he was smart enough to quit before he got hurt, but he didn't.

To say that blows to the head affect the brain is neither disrepectful or ignorant. A single punch to the head can cause irreperable damage. It's the horrible reality of the sport.

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thanks Nelson couldn't have summed it up better.
 
Yes I understand what both of you are saying and perhaps I did jump the gun. BUT getting your brains beat out on a continual basis can not cause parkinson's disease. Yes it absoluetly will result some brain damage, most likely in the prefrontal cortex region (responsbile for impulse-control, mood regulation, and attention span), but this injury is completely different from parkinson's disease. PD is the result of death of dopamine producing neurons in an area of the middle-brain known as the substantia nigra. Currently theory is that there is a strong genetic link along with an unknown external trigger. An interesting side note is that cigarette smoke lowers the risk of this disease by a statistically relevant margin.
 
Tyson is a big guy, not huge but in good condition, at least a fight time. However, any smart athlete who does not have a moral delima preventing them from using drugs, would use anabolics, because they will help you perform better in athletic activities, boxing included. I dont think tysons morals are keeping him from it so yes i say tyson has used considerable amounts of steroids. His physique suggests to me that he does traditional boxing workouts, some weight training, and juices. His muscles are well developed,but not huge like weight training, eating, and resting will develop them.-WULF
 
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