You will NOT see the same results from clen and winny. That's just rediculous. You should actually use them both. Use winny the last part of your cycle and use clen post-cycle.
Try this:
Test...........500mg/wk...........1-10
D-bol.........30mg/ED..............1-4
Winny.........50mg/ED.............7-12
Clomid...................................13-15
Arimidex-----.25mg/ED............1-15
Clen........................................13-14, 17-18, 21-22, etc...