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Cortisone injections...

Well...I did some behind the neck presses today and it was SCREAMING in pain...so I dont know what else can be done...eck...Oxandrolone has its place, I highly suggest you all read on how it stimulates increased collagen synthesis, although my doctor wouldnt prescribe it.


Zyglamail said:
It has absolutely nothing to do with using it properly. There is no proper way to use it. Like most medical treatments, its a bandaid whose only goal is to treat the sympton which is PAIN. It does nothing to help the root cause.

What people fair to realize is that the inflamatory response by the body is ESSENTIAL to proper healing. I will keep this simple, but The tissue that makes up tendons/ligaments has a natural turn over rate of 300-500 days. An injury to this tissue can not only be painfull but take a very long time to heal. The inflamation is part of what triggers the healing response and if you load up on anti-inflamatory medications, weather they be over the counter like ibuprofin or injected corticosterodis you are suppressing this crucial element and in the case of cortisone you are in essence totally preventing healing from taking place for many months.
 
wesley90 said:
Well...I did some behind the neck presses today and it was SCREAMING in pain...so I dont know what else can be done...eck...Oxandrolone has its place, I highly suggest you all read on how it stimulates increased collagen synthesis, although my doctor wouldnt prescribe it.
Im not trying to offend here, but if your screaming in pain, STOP! Its not rocket science and continued use of an injured joint is how people fuck themselves up.

Often times, a joint will not trigger intense pain until it has suffered a substantial injury. Usually this happens after many more minor injuries that are "worked through" with the help of anti-inflamatories. You continue to train and since the anti-inflamatories dont hinder muscle growth like they doe tendon/ligament injury repaire the additional strain of stonger muscles further taxes already injured tendons/ligaments and you are in a downward sprial.

First off you need to stop taking anti-inflamatories and ease up on the weights so the joibt can heal. Avoid icing it as well. Ice restrict capilaries etc and slows healing, how the hell do people expect to heal if they REDUCE blood flow?

The best treatment I have found for tendon/ligament injuries is prolotherapy. You can find more at prolonews.com if your interested.
 
I am not taking any anti-inflamatories...Other than the cortisone injection, which helped a little bit, but there is still a lot of pain. Also, on the ice, I agree and asked my PT why they use ice and she said because its often an overshoot and the excess blood wont help at all.



Zyglamail said:
Im not trying to offend here, but if your screaming in pain, STOP! Its not rocket science and continued use of an injured joint is how people fuck themselves up.

Often times, a joint will not trigger intense pain until it has suffered a substantial injury. Usually this happens after many more minor injuries that are "worked through" with the help of anti-inflamatories. You continue to train and since the anti-inflamatories dont hinder muscle growth like they doe tendon/ligament injury repaire the additional strain of stonger muscles further taxes already injured tendons/ligaments and you are in a downward sprial.

First off you need to stop taking anti-inflamatories and ease up on the weights so the joibt can heal. Avoid icing it as well. Ice restrict capilaries etc and slows healing, how the hell do people expect to heal if they REDUCE blood flow?

The best treatment I have found for tendon/ligament injuries is prolotherapy. You can find more at prolonews.com if your interested.
 
wesley90 said:
I am not taking any anti-inflamatories...Other than the cortisone injection, which helped a little bit, but there is still a lot of pain. Also, on the ice, I agree and asked my PT why they use ice and she said because its often an overshoot and the excess blood wont help at all.
You already had cortisone and your PT and doc know everything, nothing more for me to do here, good luck!
 
wesley90 said:
You took it wrong lol, I am agreeing with you :)
Unfortunatly the damage has been done. The cortisone, regardless of what your doc says, will inhibit any real healing for months to come and if you dont seriously cut back on your training you risk very serious injury.
 
wesley90 said:
Now, if it is still torn, no amount of rehab will help...I will need surgery again correct?
Depends. If its a total seperation you need surgery, if its just partially torn prolotherapy can greatly increase the rate at which it will heal and actually build up weakened tendons/ligaments.
 
I see prolotherapy works via stimulating irritation to the area of which is of concern. Although it does seem to require certain injections, not movements...so I am going to need to find someone certified to get this therapy?
 
wesley90 said:
I see prolotherapy works via stimulating irritation to the area of which is of concern. Although it does seem to require certain injections, not movements...so I am going to need to find someone certified to get this therapy?
Correct. the injections are simple and contain an irritant with lidocain for localized pain reduction without sacrificing healing. I have had it don on both elbows, ankle, back and shoulder over the last couple years and it works very well. Its not a quick fix, but it is a fix. Prolonews.com has a doc listing, maybe there is one in your area.
 
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