chazk said:Her doctors told her to take the pills thats why.He perscribed a pill that eventually led to other pills that eventually killer her. But hey doctors orders was not to diet and excersize it was to pop pills and the doctors know best don't they? Grandma would not listen to my dad (her son) becuase he does not have a 10 year degree and a script pad.
I see your govt "ministries" allow soda machines , candy machines,pizza hut along with Mcdonalds to set up shop in the school lunchrooms .While schools being underfunded and needing money the govt will not provide take the bribes becuase they need the money to stay functioning.Perhaps the govt should give schools the funding they need so the school can tell coca-cola and pepsi to take its pizzahut and burgerking away from the school lunch rooms.Where is the presidents council on fitness what are they doing to stop this?where is the center for disease control? The usa has made obestity a disease why not try and "cure" it .They can't so lil billy grows up gets fat has diabeties and keeps eating what he learned in school was good pizza hut with a mountian dew.
Humans are creatures of instinct .When a 9 yr old runs to get candy instead of a apple they dont understand what it does to their body .They just know it taste better and they like it.
I'm glad we do not see eye to eye if we did then obesity would be ok and the govt is doing everything above and beyond all it can do to stop it.Seeing eye to eye means nothing needs to be changed.I'm not looking eye to eye with you my eyes are turned away from you and focusing on rapid increasing obese adults along with childhood obesity.
You mentioned alot of things drug companies have cured with govt funding and finacial aid.Problem is the drug companies have not cured anything in the last 40 years,not a single cancer or case of aids,sars,bird flu.Things have changed in the last 40 years the drug companies make money of the repeat customers selling medicine to a life long cleint 20-40+ years or as long as they might live.If a aids patient was cured with a simple 1000$ shot would the drug companies be able to sell them azt,oxandralone along with a half dozen other drugs for the hiv/cocktail for 15-20 years?
Your also taking it the wrong way about advances in modern medical such as a tool to cut open ones jaw bones and drug companies raking in millions
Your grandmother made the choice to not follow advice given to her by people other than her quack. If she was lulled into thinking the fancy MD plaque hanging on his office wall gave him free license to run her health affairs, then the consequences are her responsibility and his.
When you mention my listed government agencies allowing sugar laden foods into schools which ones are responsible? The CDC? Doubt it. The American Cancer Society? Doubt it. Which ones that I listed are responsible? My point is government agencies exist that do what you deny any agency does.
What are 'my' government agencies doing during this fast food/ soda pop crisis you chest clutch over? Nothing effective, like all government agencies. If you could take a minute and actually read what I typed you would see I am for personal responsibility in health affairs. Your example about lil' Billy, whoever he is, only makes my point stronger. It is up to Billy and his parents not to eat that shit. Why is that so difficult to comprehend? That means I do not support these agencies as they take away from personal responsibility. You claimed that they do not exist when the do exist albeit in ineffective form. I mentioned them in counter to your ignorant blanket statement which resembles your ignorant blanket statement about drug companies reliance on government.
Humans are not creatures of instinct. Humans are creatures of reason. If eating candy over an apple was the result of human instinct then you, I, and every other human would do it. Not every human does though, hence it is not a behavior inate to our species, ie not instinct.
The drug companies do not owe anyone freebie medicines. They invest millions of dollars to research and develop treatments for diseases. They did not create these diseases, nor did they infect anyone with them, hence they are not responsible for the health of people who have them. They don't owe anyone a single shot cure for AIDS (though there is an HIV vaccine being developed by an evil drug company), they don't owe anyone a single shot cure for alzheimer's (though Elan Corp developed a vaccine that cures alzheimers, but couldn't be brought to market because a sizable percentage of people in initial trials developed a fatal nervous system inflamation). If you are better off without these terrible products they create then simply do not use them. Tell Magic Johnson and the host of other beneficiaries of terrible HIV treatments how much better off they would be without them. Then spin the clock back to the early 1980's when people were dying fast and dying in droves from 'GRIDS'. I guess HIV treatment hasn't come far in 22 years in your mind though. Tell Lance Armstrong his EPO and modern cancer treatments were all for naught as nothing has advanced in that field for the past 40 years according to you. 40 years ago he would be dead, not winning the Tour De France seven times afterwards.
I have no idea what this "tool to cut open ones jaw bones" you mentioned I talk about is? Are you talking about the sternum bonesaw? You don't even know what a sternum is. It's the bone between and underneath your pecs. It's not related to a jaw at all. The advancement I mention is the anesthesia, not the saw that cuts it open. You also mentioned that the government funded the research that lead to the cure of diseases I mention. I can't confirm or deny this without a bit of research. Can you direct me to where I can find this? I want to see your source of info for this. My suspicion is it does not exist. My suspicion is that you invent random nonsense to support your hackneyed opinions.
I've got to wave the white flag after this post. I can't argue with you as you don't understand what I'm saying and I apologize if I am not clear. The 'fat America' and status quo you think I support is nothing further from the truth. I support a 'free America', where people make their own decisions, the government does not intervene, people have unrestricted access to any drug or food product, and people take responsibility for what they do. That means you and your wife can go to the gym together three times a week and drink your four glasses of water a day. Meanwhile 'lil Billy and family can pop Lunestas, eat Whoppers, and drink soda until they explode if they so choose. You both stay out of eachother's way, you both stop forcing your choices on eachother, and you both accept the consequences of your actions.