Considering an aggressive stack for teh winter this year...

[Deleted member 33117]

500 mg test enathate a week
500 mg of eq a week
500 mg deca a week
letro whatever dose is needed
Possibly r3-igf-1 for 40 days of it

Thinking of something like this for 16-20 weeks. It would be my most agressive stack. Forthose who go "OH you will crash at the end." please try to keep in perspective that I stay on year round and bridge between cycles with low doses of test.

I think somethink like this will give me that last 15-20 lbs of lbm I need to achieve my overall goals, and should allow me to get my arms to 20".

 

[landser]

Wow, looks good to me, although I would be worried about 20 weeks of EQ. Watch your RBC. Good luck, I think you can achieve that 20lb!

 

[Dial_tone]

I doubled my dose for my last cycle and I don't think the gains were any better; matter of fact I ended the cycle early because I was just ready to be off.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

DT, right, normally I'm a low doser like you. I can make gains on 500-600 mg. I'm just begining to wonder if it will be enough to put on the rest of the size I would like to obtain. These kids who have 16" arms and are on a gram of test a week are amusing. Or the guys with mediocre physiques who use 2+ grams of total gear every week.

 

[Dial_tone]

Give it a shot; it might work for you. I think I would do the r3 during PCT though.

 

[bigp3]

I would not waste the money on r3-igf1 unless you are a pro bodybuilder or something. Sounds kind of dumb going that long to me. No way your body can hold up to true balls to the wall training for that long with out somekind of break. IMO you are just asking for it!!

 

[Deleted member 33117]

r3-igf-1 is not that expensive if you have contacts. I'm not saying how or what I can get it for, but actually my friend who uses is get its very cheap and was talking about maybe training me enoughfor 40 days for 2 grams of var powder, which would cost, on a bad day, $150.

 

[Dial_tone]

I was offered some at a great price; I just didn't follow up on it at the time. I would still like to try it someday but not at retail prices.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

I was offered some at a great price; I just didn't follow up on it at the time. I would still like to try it someday but not at retail prices.

Exactally. This guy pays prices far less than anything I've seen adverstised and I've seen the gains he has made on it. He had too many post cycle problems, and htpa issues so stopped using gear 2 years ago, and now after 2 40 day cycles of r3 at 40 mcg a day, he is a very lean, vascular 205 at around 5'8". He put on 12 lbs during the last one, and lost body fat. So it does not appear that he is getting fake r3.

 

[Juice Auth0rity]

guys like BBF and Juice Authority are a disgrace to chemically assisted bodybuilding. Mediocrity at it's finest with these two morons.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

guys like BBF and Juice Authority are a disgrace to chemically assisted bodybuilding. Mediocrity at it's finest with these two morons.

Why because I am considering stepping up into the 1 gram+ club in order to gain a bit more size? I've been training 4.5 years, have 18.75" arms, 29.5" thighs, have deadlifted 615, benched 455, etc weigh 235, but have been using 500-700 mg total (I see guys hitting 500 mg test, 400 mg eq which is 900 mg for there second cycles who are like 180 lbs and no one tells them its too much). Please explain yourself.... and post pictures before you talk shit.

 

[Lao Tzu]

Whats your logic for stacking enanthate, deca and equipoise? What synergy do these 3 drugs have?

 

[Juice Auth0rity]

Whats your logic for stacking enanthate, deca and equipoise? What synergy do these 3 drugs have?

There is no logic to his stack. this guy obviously has no understanding of how to properly construct a cycle.

 

[Lao Tzu]

There is no logic to his stack. this guy obviously has no understanding of how to properly construct a cycle.

in the month i've been here BBF has come across as pretty competent about bulking. I am just wondering why he wants these 3 particular drugs. is it cost or what?

Maybe the eq is to help with collagen and joint problems, but i still don't get the test/deca stack. maybe its due to class I & II androgen synergy.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

in the month i've been here BBF has come across as pretty competent about bulking. I am just wondering why he wants these 3 particular drugs. is it cost or what?

Maybe the eq is to help with collagen and joint problems, but i still don't get the test/deca stack. maybe its due to class I & II androgen synergy.

No, I do not believe in class I & II steroid thoery. I wrote a lengthy post on this some time back. I've observed several individuals who seem to make excellent gains on the eq/deca stack. Either compound seems to exhibit side effecs taht increase with dose, such as progestin related side effects from deca, which I have personally noticed at doses of 600+. With the boldenone, yes I am interested in the strong anabolic benefits combined with the increased collegen sythesis, and elevated hemocriptin levels, however, again I do not wish to increase the dose to a point where hemocriptin levels become dangerously high. The test is also an issue. I make superb gains on any test-based stack, or even test alone, however, I am very prone to water retention from this compound and wish to keep this in check as well. This is justone same stack, and yes price is an issue. I get all thre powders are rediculously low prices. I am however considinger a prop/tren/eq stack as well, which has historically done very well for me at moderate doses.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Radar, could you run an IP check and find out who juiceauth0rity is? Thanks. I'm going to go ahead and start red blasting him now though, so that he will be banned shortly, however i hate wasting red on alters, when I could be giving out k for good posts to deserving people.

 

[Dial_tone]

This "synergy" people talk about is highly overrated. People are losing too much sleep over finding the "perfect combination". Fact is any stack will work; spend less time worrying about what the drugs do to each other and more time worrying about what they do to YOU. When you get down to brass tacks there is a finite number of drugs and so a finite number of combinations.
If somebody wants size and strength then test, deca & anavar will work great. Deca can go into any long, hard training cycle since it will help you recuperate. If you just want lean mass then go EQ & anavar. If you need hardness for a contest then fina, masteron, winny, prop make good choices.
I laugh everytime I see a "hey check out my cycle" thread. Shut up and train. Like it or not BBF is probably in the top 5% of trainers here so calling him out is ill-advised unless you've got some pictures of yourself to post.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Thanks DT. Anymore SERIOUS input from anyone?

 

[plex1500]

BBF give the igf a try it is worth it...the cycle looks great. I think you will find the igf really makes you vascular and keeps you lean. The down side is it really makes you drag during the day but sleep like a baby at night. The gensci stuff is good.Please get the smart ass BANNED

 

[slicvic]

Thanks DT. Anymore SERIOUS input from anyone?

Is there a specific reason for not using orals at the start of your cycle? No front-loading either? Expect 2-3 inches on arms with a 20-30lb lbm gain. Also, consider researching insulin if the last 5-10lbs become impossible to get.