Confidence Ended with Dbol

[The Horse]

Hi Guys,

I've just finished 6 weeks on Dbol (stacked with Sust) yesterday and most of my confidence and self-esteem has gone with it. I guess, and it sounds weird, the best way to describe how I feel now is a bit fragile, I just want to hide away on my own and I don't feel good about myself. I felt completely different tday, like my senses returned; smelling, seeing, it was different, stronger but I feel mentally weaker. I've also noticably lost some size.

Shouldn't the Sust be taking up the slack when I finish Dbol? Shouldn't I be roaring like a lion now?

Anyone else felt like this?

 

[lartinos]

Are you taking anything for estrogen control?

 

[The Horse]

No. I do have some Nolvadex at hand but since I haven't had any gyno lately I stopped taking it. Should I?

 

[lartinos]

You should have run an AI not nolvadex all the way through. You live and you learn. I cannot say 100% that is your problem, but everyone here will agree you did not do your HW.

 

[stevesmi]

you are gonna want to run aromasin or adex with dbol. just small doses.

also your HPTA is probably shut down now.. run hcg or hcgenerate to get those balls back

dbol will bloat you like a fish unless you take precautions. i dont like the 6 weeks either. limit to 4 weeks

 

[The Horse]

Shit. OK. Thought I did do my HW. Thanks for the advice, I can buy some tomorrow. Have I lost gains beccause of this? What's the repercussions of not taking an AI?

 

[The Horse]

you are gonna want to run aromasin or adex with dbol. just small doses.

also your HPTA is probably shut down now.. run hcg or hcgenerate to get those balls back

dbol will bloat you like a fish unless you take precautions. i dont like the 6 weeks either. limit to 4 weeks

Thanks, my balls are still normal actually.. probably because I'm still running Sust, am I right?

 

[stevesmi]

Shit. OK. Thought I did do my HW. Thanks for the advice, I can buy some tomorrow. Have I lost gains beccause of this? What's the repercussions of not taking an AI?

no if anything you will be able to do heavier weight cause of the water weight. but you won't look good at all. your friends are gonna make fun of you for having a moon face, basically you have a ton of water weight. and your estrogen is high. the repercussions are anything that comes with high estrogen, thats probably why you feel different, thats what lartinos was getting at.

of course unless you do a blood test you have no way of knowing for sure. but that is a very good guess.

 

[stevesmi]

Thanks, my balls are still normal actually.. probably because I'm still running Sust, am I right?

no that isn't what i'm talking about.

i'm saying your HPTA is shut down. your balls are shrinking fast.

i would get on hcg ASAP. dont let your balls turn to raisins cause you will get a very hard landing into PCT.

 

[ALIN]

Hi Guys,

I've just finished 6 weeks on Dbol (stacked with Sust) yesterday and most of my confidence and self-esteem has gone with it. I guess, and it sounds weird, the best way to describe how I feel now is a bit fragile, I just want to hide away on my own and I don't feel good about myself. I felt completely different tday, like my senses returned; smelling, seeing, it was different, stronger but I feel mentally weaker. I've also noticably lost some size.

Shouldn't the Sust be taking up the slack when I finish Dbol? Shouldn't I be roaring like a lion now?

Anyone else felt like this?

DBOL actually has the reputation of making one feel good.
Its odd your feeeling depressed and losing size.
Is your DBOL legit? Your diet solid?

 

[downunder hunter]

Dbol makes me feel like a god in the gym, you gotta get spme blood tests bro I think Lartinos is right on the money. Too much estrogen!

 

[HarryHarry]

Dbol is amazing at giving people confidence when I first came of dbol I got checkd for high estrogen as I also felt bad and down. MY blood work came back fine and I actualy put it down to a reverse plcebo effect. You know the dbol confidence boost is not there and you think to yourself that your worse than nomral when your actualy just fine and missing it. Could all be in your head. I say get some blood work and while you wait for results try slap yourself out of it and win the mind battle. Will work wonders if you can beat it in your head first.

Harry

 

[The Horse]

Dbol is amazing at giving people confidence when I first came of dbol I got checkd for high estrogen as I also felt bad and down. MY blood work came back fine and I actualy put it down to a reverse plcebo effect. You know the dbol confidence boost is not there and you think to yourself that your worse than nomral when your actualy just fine and missing it. Could all be in your head. I say get some blood work and while you wait for results try slap yourself out of it and win the mind battle. Will work wonders if you can beat it in your head first.

Harry

Thanks, that sounds like good advice. I felt so great on Dbol and now I feel like a worm. How long did this down period last for you?

 

[The Horse]

Can anyone also tell me what sort of course of HCG to take? I read that I should take it in my PCT and I've still got a month of Sust to do.

Thanks.

 

[AlphaMaleDawg]

Dbol made me feel good in the gym
But it made me fat from a water weight standpoint. I learned it wasn't for me as I lose all my confidence when I lose my abs

 

[SouthernLord]

Can anyone also tell me what sort of course of HCG to take? I read that I should take it in my PCT and I've still got a month of Sust to do.

Thanks.

Start the hcg asap. 250iu twice a week until your last injection. I'd run an ai too. I prefer aromasin. 12.5mg eod or e3d all the way through pct.

 

[SouthernLord]

I looked for it today and was told tere is none in the country, I have to leave the country to get some! Pissed me off man. It needs to be kept refrigorated, right?

Yes, once reconstituted it should be kept in the fridge.

 

[The Horse]

Start the hcg asap. 250iu twice a week until your last injection. I'd run an ai too. I prefer aromasin. 12.5mg eod or e3d all the way through pct.

I looked for it today and was told tere is none in the country, I have to leave the country to get some! Pissed me off man. It needs to be kept refrigorated, right?

 

[stevesmi]

or you can run hcgenerate ASAP and then run hcg directly after cycle

 

[HarryHarry]

Thanks, that sounds like good advice. I felt so great on Dbol and now I feel like a worm. How long did this down period last for you?

Lasted about 5 days with me. I came off dbol the saturday and felt fine sunday until I hit the gym on monday. Only when I was in the gym on monday did I start doubting myself. Lasted until the friday after the gym and then I had the weekend to get myself fired up again and start over.

Harry

 

[Nelson Montana]

DBOL actually has the reputation of making one feel good.
Its odd your feeeling depressed and losing size.
Is your DBOL legit? Your diet solid?

^ What I was thinking. It MAY be estrogen. Don't use nolvadex though. That'll make it worse.

 

[lartinos]

HCG is not necessary, controlling estrogen is because it can effect your emotions. And yes... your estrogen is elevated from that cycle.

 

[The Horse]

HCG is not necessary, controlling estrogen is because it can effect your emotions. And yes... your estrogen is elevated from that cycle.

How do I control it without using Nolvadex? I started taking Nolva last night and been taking it today. How will that make things worse?

 

[lartinos]

How do I control it without using Nolvadex? I started taking Nolva last night and been taking it today. How will that make things worse?

Not sure that will do anything for you bro in terms of how you feel. Get some aromasin or arimidex nwo or get forma-stanazol.
Get something!

 

[The Horse]

Hi guys, the update's not good. I can't get any HCG, Arimidex or any of the shit that was recommended. I'm getting pain in my testicles, I guess that's them drying up, they'll be more wrinkly than a prune's wallet by the end of the week.

Is there anything advice about alternatives anyone can give? I have provironum.. I'm desperate now. I can hear the countdown music from 24 as my balls get smaller and smaller.

I live in a itte tin-pot communist country. I went to Thailand twice over the last couple of days but even the hospitals don't have it. How much time do you think I have left? What will happen if I don't get this shit?

 

[stevesmi]

bro i dont know what to tell you. can you get hcgenerate?

how do you run a PCT without hcg anyway? highly weak PCT using just nolva.

 

[The Horse]

Is there anythingelse I can take?

 

[stevesmi]

hcgenerate from Needtobuildmuscle.

or HMG.

 

[The Horse]

MY BALLS ARE BACK!!! I managed to get some HCG! Fuck, it was hard but I got some in the end. My balls had shrunk to literally, the size of Maltesers. I could only get 1500 iu amps, so I shot one of those in my ass and got my balls back with 20 minutes. The only thing is, I couldn't get the 250 iu as was recommended. How about 1500 iu every week running alongside Sust. Will 1500 be too much? Will my balls explode like eggs in a microwave?

Thanks for your help guys, appreciate it.