Compounds or Isolations on cycle?

[Pound4PoundAAS]

I prefer compound lifts while using tren and test but I've heard of people using only isolation lifts while on cycles. What do you guys prefer?


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[joeblow12345]

I prefer compound lifts while using tren and test but I've heard of people using only isolation lifts while on cycles. What do you guys prefer?


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Always compound movements, isolation is used sparingly.

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[Fishak]

Love the big compound lifts, I finish wo with isolation

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[Zyglamail]

On cycle or off is irrelevant if you ask me, it all boils down to goals. My personal opinion is that unless your just into looks there isnt much room for isolation exercises. The exception to that rule of course is isolation exercises for rotator cuffs etc.

 

[Judo Tom]

i do almost NO isolation exercises.. id rather put all my energy into the big heavy compound movements or explosive exercises and get out of the gym and eat and recover.

 

[jcmbbfuture]

Everything has its place to me. Compound exercises make up the core but isolation exercises are very effective if used right. Some people use too many iso exercises and dont have that good strong foundation but isolation is the key. Some people have more trouble focusing on the muscles intended to be stimulated during certain compound movements and this can be a problem. Mentzer was known for using a lot of machines and iso exercises because they could better stimulate the target muscle without putting excessive focus on stabilization, etc.

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[Zyglamail]

Everything has its place to me. Compound exercises make up the core but isolation exercises are very effective if used right. Some people use too many iso exercises and dont have that good strong foundation but isolation is the key. Some people have more trouble focusing on the muscles intended to be stimulated during certain compound movements and this can be a problem. Mentzer was known for using a lot of machines and iso exercises because they could better stimulate the target muscle without putting excessive focus on stabilization, etc.

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And Mentzer was also a bodybuilder where balance and symmetry was crucial. Iso exercises help specifically target and bring up the size of muscles where your genetics may have shorted you. As I mentioned above iso exercises are needed for looks, not so much for anything else.

In terms of pure functionality, there is very little need for isolation work. Compound movement execution can usually be altered to some degree to put more emphasis on lagging areas but at the end of the day, the weak link in the chain is ALWAYS going to get worked when doing compound movements.

 

[jcmbbfuture]

And Mentzer was also a bodybuilder where balance and symmetry was crucial. Iso exercises help specifically target and bring up the size of muscles where your genetics may have shorted you. As I mentioned above iso exercises are needed for looks, not so much for anything else.

In terms of pure functionality, there is very little need for isolation work. Compound movement execution can usually be altered to some degree to put more emphasis on lagging areas but at the end of the day, the weak link in the chain is ALWAYS going to get worked when doing compound movements.

You are right about the weak link point and I also agree with your point on counpound exercises having a more functional purpose however you kind of made my point for me. A lot of guys on here bodybuild (even if just for recreational purposes) and balance, symmetry, etc are very important. Therefore iso exercises are almost a must have. Just in the right ratios. You would be hard pressed to see a pro bodybuilder, physique model, etc that just uses compound exercises. Powerlifting, Olympic lifting, and athletic training are different stories.

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[Pound4PoundAAS]

Seems like both are important to a strong and good looking physique. The reason I ask, a friend said that "isos are only for juicers" and completely threw me for a loop. Great responses like always guys


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[UA_Iron]

You need them both. It's not one or the other.

Some things benefit from compound lifts, some things don't.

 

[moya]

compound all the way...

 

[UA_Iron]

compound all the way...

Well yeah, for power lifting.

Isolations for turning the females on...

 

[moya]

what bodypart can you not work out with compound lifts?....

 

[jcmbbfuture]

what bodypart can you not work out with compound lifts?....

You can pretty much stimulate every muscle group in some way with some compound exercise but not necessarily to the same extent as some iso exercises. Biceps for instance do not get full stimulation until the wrist is fully rotated to the point where the pinky is higher than the thumb. You can't get this type of movement and stimulation from any compound movement.

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[Pound4PoundAAS]

My outer delts never seem to get enough attention from clean and press or bent over rows, so I usually add in some side laterals to push them to grow symmetrically.


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[Iron Warrior707]

For bodybuilders 80% iso 20% compound, for powerlifters 80% iso 20% compound.. Depends on your goals.

 

[UA_Iron]

My outer delts never seem to get enough attention from clean and press or bent over rows, so I usually add in some side laterals to push them to grow symmetrically.


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Try flexing your lat while you're going through the range of the exercise. Should effectively change the pivot point to kind of stretch the muscle outward. Try cables too, tension throughout the entire range of motion.

 

[Pound4PoundAAS]

Try flexing your lat while you're going through the range of the exercise. Should effectively change the pivot point to kind of stretch the muscle outward. Try cables too, tension throughout the entire range of motion.

Not bad, I'll try it


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