COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF fails to protect his people, Congressional hearings on the way

[strongchick]

We knew about potential use of a plane as a missile:

http://www.terrorismanswers.com/security/airline2.html


What warnings were missed?
In 1994, hijackers linked to the Armed Islamic Group, an Algerian Islamist group with some ties to al-Qaeda, seized an Air France flight in Algiers and ordered it flown to Marseilles. The hijackers then said they wanted to fly to Paris but demanded that the plane be loaded with 27 tons of fuel—three times the amount required for the Paris flight. Freed hostages later told authorities that the hijackers, who were killed by French troops, planned to detonate the plane over Paris or crash it into the Eiffel Tower.

 

[Immortal Juicer]

Another thing...

if you think Bush and his advisers didnt "connect the dots," when it was painfully obvious - then you list in order the top 5 or 10 specific terrorist attack attempts. List what the attack will be, where it will be, when it will be and the probability you believe it will occur.

For example, if President Bush and his advisers were not so fucking blind, they would have known on Sept 10th the next attack would be:

-terrorist suicide plane hijacking
-major capitalism symbol (WTC, ESB, etc..)
-within the next month
-~35% chance attempt will take place

Now try to narrow the scenario down from the millions of flights every day, every day from now to when the threat is over, the symbol they will try to hit (why the WTC instead any of the hundreds of sporting events or universitite, or NASA, or White House) Why this Tuesday and not during the weekend at a sporting event, or Sunday at one of nations most populated churces? Killing Christians seems much more likely than them wanting to kill bankers.

Had Bush dedicated every second from the time he recieved the report on the 9th to stopping the next attack, he couldnt. Brainstorming, analyzing and evaluating terrorist threat is not an easy process. I dont care how smart you are, you are not going to be staring at a pile of evidence and suddenly realize:

"Holy shit, they are going to hijack and airline, not with a gun...a boxcutter! yeah, a boxcutter and....make dem.. no, not demands....sui...suicide! suicide attack. They are going to use the plane as a missle in a suicide attack. And hit the...WTC, the WTC, again, the WTC again...and the pentagon!...And they are going to do it........Dec., no. Oc, no. September? September....

HOLY SHIT ITS PLAIN AS DAY!! AL-QUEDA IS GOING TO HIJACK 4 PLANES USING BOXCUTTERS AND FLY THE PLANES INTO THE WTC AND THE PENTAGON....THIS TUESDAY!!

-damn, I cant believe I didnt notice that sooner.


If its so easy, step up to the plate, look into your crystal ball and tell us what so obvious to you. What is going to be the next attack. And please try to be as specific as possible.

RyanH, buddy, make a prediction.

 

[spongebob]

We knew about potential use of a plane as a missile:

http://www.terrorismanswers.com/security/airline2.html


What warnings were missed?
In 1994, hijackers linked to the Armed Islamic Group, an Algerian Islamist group with some ties to al-Qaeda, seized an Air France flight in Algiers and ordered it flown to Marseilles. The hijackers then said they wanted to fly to Paris but demanded that the plane be loaded with 27 tons of fuel—three times the amount required for the Paris flight. Freed hostages later told authorities that the hijackers, who were killed by French troops, planned to detonate the plane over Paris or crash it into the Eiffel Tower.

hahaha, cut and paste queen is back.

 

[Immortal Juicer]

http://www.cnn.com/US/9607/30/clinton.terrorism/

http://www.newsday.com/news/nytwa96-gore906.story

Clinton and Gore made significant proposals that would enact measures to counteract terrorism that were ignored or ballyhooed by the Republican party.

That's ok. Clinton getting his dick sucked was way more important than the 3000 lives sacrificed.

You are right. Most americans are lazy, tv watching idiots that think the presidents dick and who is sucking it is a danger worthy of national attention. These same idiots think the middle east hates us "because we are free", and also believe the superficial security measures at airports make airlines safer. The only time they turned to CNN from the Jerry Springer Show, was to hear the President of the US say "penis," "vagina," and "oral sex."

Because that shit is important.

 

[spongebob]

http://www.cnn.com/US/9607/30/clinton.terrorism/

http://www.newsday.com/news/nytwa96-gore906.story

Clinton and Gore made significant proposals that would enact measures to counteract terrorism that were ignored or ballyhooed by the Republican party.

That's ok. Clinton getting his dick sucked was way more important than the 3000 lives sacrificed.

hahaha, why dont you read up some more and see that clinton also had ties to the bin ladens and had ample opporntunity to get bin laden even after three terrorist attacks against this nation and his declared jihad in 98'. clinton didnt give a shit about bin laden and he festered into what we have now. its qiute possible that clinton obstructed an active investigation into abdullah bin laden in 96 which may have led to some of the actual terrorist. its hard to counter your arguement, especially when theres nonthing there and you use the classic approach towards clintons lazziare faire approach to bin laden, blame it on the pubs for worrying about his dick suck.

ive said it before, whats ironic is clinton getting his dick sucked seem more important to him than 3000 peoples lives. maybe if he had stopped chasing fat ass splittail around the whitehouse and actually did his job in regards to bin laden and al qaeda we wouldnt be discussing this. ultimately he takes blame also.

 

[strongchick]

 

[spongebob]

i should have known better.

 

[strongchick]

i should have known better.

You try to bait me by rehashing old arguments instead of addressing directly the fact that Clinton and Gore as recently as 1999 tried to warn and do something about terrorism.

It isn't success in getting Osama that is as important as recognizing the problem and removing the arrogance that prevents us from adequately protecting ourselves.

And Bush should've just come clean before he was forced to.

Your argument doesn't deserve a thoughtful answer. We knew. We understood the potential threat. But we rejected preventive measures in favor of other priorities based on Republican maneuvering.

 

[beefybull]

not at all....I think the President should be investigated and have his actions scrutinized by the American people as well as Congress, in the same way that President Clinton had his actions scrutinized for 8 years (and even to this day).

Shut the fuck up. For real.
Sometimes I sit here and see shit RyanH posts and it makes me wonder. Wonder "How did such a homo get so much karma?" Did he fuck the system? Kiss ass for months before pulling a queer 180? Etc.

When 90% of your posts are about how you love being a left-wing, liberal, lame-ass Democrat homo and why its not cool to be anything else, it detracts from your arguments.

Face it, a lot of America is starting to realize that the Republican way of thinking is simply better. Thats why we have a majority Republican House and until recently, Senate as well. And a Republican Prez. Quit hatin'.

The bottom line is Bush basically had this information: "Hey GB, theres some Arabians taking flight classes, that could cause some shit someday". That doesnt mean he knew about the 9-11 attacks in advance b/c we would have stopped it for sure if there was prior knowledge. Terrorist threats and plans are thwarted EVERY day by anti-terrorist units worldwide. If they had even the slightest warning about 9-11 attack plans and what was about to happen, it'd have been stopped for sure.

The Democrats are trying to do everything they can to try to bring down Bush's insanely high approval rating and the general population shift away from the Democrat party

 

[Immortal Juicer]

Its a fucking shame that anyone would fail to see the danger america faces and try to blame any person, group, or political party for what happened. Instead of making accusations, we need to work together to find out HOW and WHY 9/11 happened, and how we can prevent it from happening again.

9/11 exposed a vulnerability in our entire nation and its defense.

Its Clintons fault
its Bush's fault
its the CIA's faule
its the FBI's fault
its the Democrats fault
its the Republicans fault
its every citizens fault

We chose to inplement a government in which the President is determined not by experience, qualification, expertise, education, or any other quality intrinsic to the position, but by popularity.

Political elections are nothing more than a fucking popularity contest and consequently, many people act like junior high students.

Why is that suprising?

Damn its good to see that the whole "united we stand" feeling after 9/11 is over and we are back to taking sides and arguing with each other over trivial bullshit.