cocaine

[Mastardo]

I have dabbled in weed, meth, coke, e, psychedelics, but never heroin.

The most enjoyable drugs were the most addictive to me. My favorites have been meth and weed, in that order. I have tried cigarettes, but I never actually found them to be terrible addictive. There is no reliable "Addictometer" that I have heard of, but this table is pretty close in my opinion:

There is a lot of misinformation and misinformed ideology in all positions of the drug debate. All of you "I'll just take an upper in the morning, a bong hit in the afternoon and a downer in the evening" people need to reallize what that mindset could mean for your life. Take a step back and reallize that even if you are high, it won't make up for relatively poor health or a general lack of accomplishments down the road. Don't tell me that a drug "lifestyle" won't negatively affect your judgement in that sense.

In research on rats, it has been demonstrated that rats in higher social positions are less likely to become addicted to cocaine. Likewise, it is surprisingly accurate to separate society into a gradient between those that are successful and those that are degenerates. Certain drugs are very addictive and their marketing (and tariff schedules enforced by death and incarceration) contribute to quite a lot of pain - irrespective of whether drugs should be prohibited or not. Dabble in drugs if you dare, but don't stick your head in your ass regarding their overall effects.

Also, from what I have read cocaine causes "less" brain damage than methamphetamine. The jury is still out on that I guess.

 

[Mastardo]

Oh, and weed is really nice once in a while isn't it? There really are no negatives if its used right, and it can be an effective means of dealing with stress.

Peace

 

[curling]

wow that was a horribly generic statement.

What do you mean killahbee?

 

[Lestat]

it has to do with the method of adminsitration.

The linings of the lungs are the fastest way to get a substance into the bloodstream. The speed at which a substance hits the brain is related to enhancing its addictive properties. This is why crack is more addictive than powdered cocaine; it hits the blood 25% faster.

Nicotine gets in the same way, so its already addctive properties are enhanced.


Killah, are you taking the word of a textbook publisher? the same people who told you Whitey and the Indians shook hands and ate turkey? mothafucka please. Or is this the DARE cop...the fat donut eating bitch they take off the line and give index cards to....to scare kids off drugs?

Cocaine does this - floods the brain with dopamine. No biggie, so does an orgasm, even chocolate. Difference is, cocaine prevents dopamine reuptake. Brain can;t clean it. You stay high. Feels good, doesn;t it?

OK, so does Ecstasy. But the difference is, coke deadens the sensitivity to anything OTHER THAN coke to achieve dopamine surges. So orgasms and chocolate aren't going to do it anymore...in fact, NOTHING is, except cocaine.

That's why it is so destructive.

fastest way to get something into the blood stream is intravenously

 

[KillahBee]

What do you mean killahbee?

I mean that you said coke was a horrible drug and it's not worth it. What you should have said was, "it's not worth it to me". As I have said, I have done many drugs and I think they were all worth it. I am a very successful, very healthy, very happy, very intelligent person. Therefore, your statement is false, for me.

 

[curling]

I mean that you said coke was a horrible drug and it's not worth it. What you should have said was, "it's not worth it to me". As I have said, I have done many drugs and I think they were all worth it. I am a very successful, very healthy, very happy, very intelligent person. Therefore, your statement is false, for me.

I guess you didn't do enough to get addicted. Good for you but I still think I have given valuble advice that it is not worth messing with period.

 

[Phaded]

coke comedown take a xanax or two you'll be hungover in the morning but i'd rather have that then have to comedown from coke..

coke is not a horrible drug.. you guys who are knocking it haven't experienced it or you have addict friends..

 

[KillahBee]

I guess you didn't do enough to get addicted. Good for you but I still think I have given valuble advice that it is not worth messing with period.

Hey look, I would never suggest anyone do any drug, so that I agree with you on. But I cannot buy this false image of drug addiction that everyone (and usually the ones with no experience....) puts out there. I AM A LIVING, BREATHING EXAMPLE. Argue with that. I did A LOT and in a short period of time. I have seen a lot of people do less than me and "get addicted". I firmly believe that it has a lot to do with one's personality, inner strength, and their ability to control cravings/actions.

 

[Lestat]

Ok let me chime in here:

First, I studies drugs of all sorts for a year in the academic environment. I was a bio-psychology major and am fairly familiar with the action of drugs on the brain, neurotransmitters, downregulation of receptors, decreased reuptake, etc.

Also, I've used quite a bit of things recreationally. I've never had any sort of "drug" problem. Meaning, I've never missed work because I was high, I never failed out of school, I haven't sold my car for drugs, etc.

Cocaine is like any other drug. It is ok for some, and terrible for a select few. Just like alcohol, pot, or even porn. Most people can use it for fun on a limited basis, but some people get compulsive with it and can't control themselves.

There is a physical part of addiction to cocaine. There isn't much of one with pot or porn of course. But the physical part is like that of any opiate or even alcohol. Obviously method of delivery matters as well as frequency of use.

So bottom line without getting too wordy. If you are interested in it, I'd say try it out, but don't buy a lot, and know that once the party is over, its over. Maybe you get a craving or an urge to do it again soon, just resist it. Tell your friends about it so they can support you. (This doesn't work if you hang out with coke-head friends).

If you have had a problem with alcohol or any other drug, I'd say stay the FUCK away. Just like I'd tell a pedophile to never look at porn. But if you are like the vast majority of the population, you could likely use coke, have a good time, and never be addicted. Its very rare to use it once and get hooked. People who get hooked usually binge on it, and do it for so long that the idea of coming down sucks so bad they just keep doing it and doing it.

So what to expect? not much.

You get a 20-30 minute high. Pretty fun and intense. It affects people differently. Some people get really chatty, others very confident, sometimes both. You get a sense that all is right with the world and you could accomplis ANYTHING in that moment.

After that you get 30 mins or so up a less intense type of high, its wearing off, but you aren't totally sober.

Then its done. If you just did one or two lines, the come down isn't rough. A little jitters or anxiety.. but you can deal.

Where you get the bad crash is where you hit a line, then another 30 mins later, then another.. and so on for the entire night, or entire weekend. When you finally stop, you can expect a good 4-12 hours of a pretty bad come down. Your body will be exhausted yet your brain wont calm down enough to sleep. All you will want to do is sleep but you wont be able to. It will pass, but it sucks while you are in it.

So right when you snort your first line, you will feel it within 30seconds to a minute. Your nose and part of your face will go numb including your teeth. The more you do the more numb your face will be. You will get a "drip".. the back of your through will get a nasty bitter tasting post nasal drip.. some people like it because they associate it with the high, but it tastes bad and is annoying. From then you are off an running with your high.


Personally, the high is great, but too short for me and the come down sucks.

I prefer opiates (narcotics) myself. better high, less of a come down (unless you are a habitual user).

 

[Phaded]

nicely said lestat.. it also depends how good the coke is how long it will last and how big the line is.. some people sell novacaine as coke..