Clomid poll?

[darwinmcduck]

Taking the PCT seems to have stronger sides everytime I do it. For example more frequent and intenses eye trailers, sleepless nights, night sweats, and generally funny feeling in my head. I am not so sure that the last PCT I took even worked. My questions is for vets that have a long history of PCT. How long does it take now for you to see results? Does it seem as effective in the past? Have the sides intensified? Any suggestions appreciated

 

[njmuscleguy]

Taking the PCT seems to have stronger sides everytime I do it. For example more frequent and intenses eye trailers, sleepless nights, night sweats, and generally funny feeling in my head. I am not so sure that the last PCT I took even worked. My questions is for vets that have a long history of PCT. How long does it take now for you to see results? Does it seem as effective in the past? Have the sides intensified? Any suggestions appreciated

What's your PCT look like?

I'm still trying to nail the "perfect PCT" - been struggling with this for a while now. The first time I tried clomid, the sides were so bad that I had to stop taking it mid-PCT (finished off with nolvadex). My last PCT was unsuccessful as evidence by blood work and how awful I felt... I ran it for 6 weeks (HCG, Nolvadex + AI) - I think I may have started PCT a little too soon after last inject. My PCT dosages may have been a factor as well. I ran a second PCT several weeks after that, this time adding clomid as well. This time the Clomid sides were tolerable and I seemed to recover a bit better (though not 100%). I changed how I ran HCG as well (500 iu ED for 21 days instead of 1500 iu 3x's week).

My next PCT I am going to try this - 2 weeks after last inject:
HCG 500 iu ED 10-21 days (depending on how I feel)
Wks 1-4 AI (Aromasin or AIFM)
Wks 1-6 Nolvadex 20mg ED

I *may* add Clomid into the mix but not sure. It definitely seems to help kickstart things but the sides are make or break. I also think it's important to wait long enough after the cycle is over (depending on what you were running). Also, I think 500iu HCG ED is better than other protocols that call for 1000 - 1500 iu 3x's week.

 

[darwinmcduck]

I have done it different ways but most commonly I would take clomid for 21 days after takin 1,500 ius hcg 3 x weekly for two weeks.

 

[njmuscleguy]

I have done it different ways but most commonly I would take clomid for 21 days after takin 1,500 ius hcg 3 x weekly for two weeks.

So you're saying that protocol hasn't been effective for you? And the clomid sides as well? Have you tried HCG + Nolva + AI instead? Also, you might want to try 500iu per day for 10-21 days as opposed to larger doses.

 

[darwinmcduck]

It used to be but now it is not doing the trick. I may try the 500 iu/day thing. I am really researching this because it is something new that I have never encountered over 9 years.

 

[njmuscleguy]

It used to be but now it is not doing the trick. I may try the 500 iu/day thing. I am really researching this because it is something new that I have never encountered over 9 years.

wish I could give you more insight.... could be that as years go by, the body just doesn't recover as quickly or as well as before, regardless of what PCT protocl you follow.... but hell, if I looked like that, I wouldn't care too much about libido issues.... (well, not really *grin*)